• magnetosphere
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      955 months ago

      Throwing in the word “apparent” is cowardly, but it’s also a lot cheaper than being sued for libel by a fucking billionaire.

      • @LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee
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        385 months ago

        Nah. Getting sued for libel is what these outlets should be absolutely proud to have sent their way. That’s literally a news story in itself. It would also means he’d actually have to defend it instead of posting Nazi puns on Twitter.

        • @markko@lemmy.world
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          85 months ago

          From a legal point of view it hasn’t been tried in a court of law, which is why words like “apparently” and “allegedly” are used.

                • @RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com
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                  35 months ago

                  Less than perfectly, due to the constraints of the system they are forced to operate within.*

                  You are, of course, free to start up a news agency that fulfills every ideal you hold close, just know that you’ll have to have a lot of funding if you’re going to be spending as much time in court defending against libel lawsuits as you spend on reporting.

            • @markko@lemmy.world
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              15 months ago

              That is literally what happens in US news when the subject involves a criminal offence or could be considered defamation.

          • @IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world
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            So if Elon literally lay down on the ground we couldn’t say he lay on the ground? You’re saying we would have to say allegedly? What he did is not in question, their argument was intent. It should be obvious that he lay on the ground but reported as possibly unintentionally lay on the ground. The action is clear as day and should not be up for dispute

    • @Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world
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      565 months ago

      In this case I think the point is to be on the nose about how fucking ridiculous it is - just from this article:

      Steve Bannon made a gesture that is identical to a Nazi salute

      Bannon made the gesture — extending his arm, palm down, fingers straight, at an upward angle away from his chest, which is also what Nazi salutes look like

      the gesture was also identical to one made by billionaire Elon Musk

      extended his arm straight out, palm down, fingers straight, at an upward angle away from his chest. Which, whatever the billionaire’s intention, just happens to be precisely how a Nazi salute is performed.

      Musk repeated the gesture. Here’s how that looked. <pic of Musk doing a Nazi salute>

      • @Serinus@lemmy.world
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        35 months ago

        I also wouldn’t be surprised if the DoJ would be specifically ordered to look at this case. When you’re challenging power, it makes sense to cross your Ts and dot your Is.

      • @Embargo@lemm.ee
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        145 months ago

        And the second (which is how they are using it) is “seeming real or true, but not necessarily so”.

        • @belastend@slrpnk.net
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          I think the third one is “brother, i really don’t wanna get sued for that shit.” Pretty sure they are using that one.

        • @otp@sh.itjust.works
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          Having read the article, that doesn’t seem to be the case. The undertones of the writing seem to be “There have been some attempts to deny that these are Nazi salutes (and not from the people making the gestures), but plausible deniability is rapidly running out and it definitely looks exactly like a Nazi salute”.

    • @exploitedamerican@lemm.ee
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      45 months ago

      The space karen one was blatantly apparent, this was a pretty half assed attempt. Like he is too much of a bitch to put his contemptible fascist ideology on full display.