• Drunemeton
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    7910 months ago

    Just finished watching that train wreck and it went exactly like I (we!?) thought it would!

    It’s weird that Donald Trump can’t speak without being nasty. Donald Trump is weird in that mannerism.

  • ThePowerOfGeek
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    4610 months ago

    She just turned black? Has he not been paying attention for the past 4 years? (Rhetorical question. We all know the answer to that is “no, of course he hasn’t, because he’s so fixated with himself!”)

    • Flying Squid
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      I’m sure her Jamaican dad would be amazed to hear that his daughter hasn’t been black for almost all of her 59 years on this planet.

    • @Passerby6497@lemmy.world
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      1610 months ago

      I said this in another thread, but “things happening/existing before you know about them” is something I’m working on with my child, not something a presidential candidate should struggle with.

    • palordrolap
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      810 months ago

      There’s a joke involving peril sensitive sunglasses here somewhere.

    • @can@sh.itjust.works
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      In the full quote he did say she turned black “a number of years ago”, for context, but he’s still full of shit.

  • @Treczoks@lemmy.world
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    2910 months ago

    It is probably a Republican mindset that “race” is still a thing in the US. Who the f cares what race Kamela Harris is - besides “Human”

    • @Crowfiend@lemmy.world
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      As someone who grew up in a (not so surprising) racist family: I promise you, they don’t care. If she had an ® next to her name, they’d be voting for her instead of Trump, as long as the opponent had a (D) next to their name.

      The modern republican party is what’s left of “the south that will rise again”. Doesn’t matter that Donnie dipshit wasn’t born in the south, that’s the demographic he’s been taught, all his life, that matters.

      And in Donnie the dipshit’s case, it’s basically still 1800s America. Guy hasn’t moved a millimeter since 1990. Guy probably doesn’t know what the word ‘no’ even means.

      If you vote for Donnie Dumbass, I hope once the liberals are gone ,he comes for you next.

  • @qooqie@lemmy.world
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    2610 months ago

    Remember how people were betting when he’d say something openly racist? Bets were September, turns out it was June!

  • I wonder if they booked this event a few weeks back when Trump was trying to woo black voters.

    Since Biden stepped back and Kamala stepped up he would’ve abandoned that I guess - seems like instead he’s taken the opportunity to upset black voters in order to appeal to his base.

    Of course, he could just be being himself.

    • @Tire@lemmy.ml
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      510 months ago

      This was a great well deserved ambush. The very first question was absolutely devastating for him and got him to show his nasty side. He can appeal to his base all he wants because they aren’t the majority.

  • @exanime@lemmy.world
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    1410 months ago

    It’s funny (sad funny, not haha funny) we can’t really know if what he said was just an incoherent sentence due to his obvious dementia or a racist comment due to his rampant racism or a misogynist comment due to his unbridled misogyny

    Trump truly is a whole package of shit

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  • @RedWeasel@lemmy.world
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    510 months ago

    I would have thought it was a low bar to clear of not questioning if she is black, but here we are.

  • @TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world
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    It’s racist that we continue to use racial identifiers even though race science was debunked as pseudoscience some time ago.

    Edit: for those who don’t know, here’s more information:

    Scientific racism, sometimes termed biological racism, is the pseudoscientific belief that the human species is divided into biologically distinct taxa called “races”, and that empirical evidence exists to support or justify racial discrimination, racial inferiority, or racial superiority. Before the mid-20th century, scientific racism was accepted throughout the scientific community, but it is no longer considered scientific. The division of humankind into biologically separate groups, along with the assignment of particular physical and mental characteristics to these groups through constructing and applying corresponding explanatory models, is referred to as racialism, race realism, or race science by those who support these ideas. Modern scientific consensus rejects this view as being irreconcilable with modern genetic research.

    Scientific racism misapplies, misconstrues, or distorts anthropology (notably physical anthropology), craniometry, evolutionary biology, and other disciplines or pseudo-disciplines through proposing anthropological typologies to classify human populations into physically discrete human races, some of which might be asserted to be superior or inferior to others. Scientific racism was common during the period from the 1600s to the end of World War II, and was particularly prominent in European and American academic writings from the mid-19th century through the early-20th century. Since the second half of the 20th century, scientific racism has been discredited and criticized as obsolete, yet has persistently been used to support or validate racist world-views based upon belief in the existence and significance of racial categories and a hierarchy of superior and inferior races.

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    Basically, “race” is a pseudoscientific concept that has been discredited. Race doesn’t really exist. There is no Black race or White race. Those races were made up, constructed around arbitrary physical characteristics, without any basis in actual biological science.

    Race doesn’t really exist, but what does exist is ethnicity:

    An ethnicity or ethnic group is a group of people who identify with each other on the basis of perceived shared attributes that distinguish them from other groups. Those attributes can include a common nation of origin, or common sets of ancestry, traditions, language, history, society, religion, or social treatment. The term ethnicity is often used interchangeably with the term nation, particularly in cases of ethnic nationalism.

    Ethnicity may be construed as an inherited or societally imposed construct. Ethnic membership tends to be defined by a shared cultural heritage, ancestry, origin myth, history, homeland, language, dialect, religion, mythology, folklore, ritual, cuisine, dressing style, art, or physical appearance. Ethnic groups may share a narrow or broad spectrum of genetic ancestry, depending on group identification, with some groups having mixed genetic ancestry.

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    • @explodicle@sh.itjust.works
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      This is just a variant of the “I don’t see race” argument. When they say black and we say racist, we’re talking about a social construct, not pure biology. The cop and hiring manager still see people as black. Us refusing to use the word for this construct makes it harder - not easier - to address at a systemic level.

      • @TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world
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        This is just a variant of the “I don’t see race” argument.

        I don’t agree. Acknowledging the very real status of race science being a totally debunked pseudoscience, is not the same as saying, “I don’t see any outward, physical differences between people.” I recognize that some people have, for instance, darker skin than others. I don’t expect that the full rejection of the pseudoscientific concept of “race” will or should result in people becoming “color blind,” so to speak. However, I do think as we move from race classifications to ethnic classifications, skin color (or any other arbitrary outward physical characteristics) will become less important and other ethnic signifiers (like language or dialect, culture, art and clothing styles, nationality, religion, etc) will become more important.