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@return2ozma@lemmy.world to politics @lemmy.world • 11 months ago

Trump accepts RFK Jr endorsement and vows to release JFK assassination files

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Trump accepts RFK Jr endorsement and vows to release JFK assassination files

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@return2ozma@lemmy.world to politics @lemmy.world • 11 months ago
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  • goferking (he/him)
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    154•11 months ago

    I thought he promised that during the 2016 election?

    • @return2ozma@lemmy.worldOP
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      144•11 months ago

      Yes he did. Trump promises a lot of things and never delivers.

      • @macarthur_park@lemmy.world
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        63•11 months ago

        By not releasing the JFK files Trump maintained this crucial bit of leverage. That’s some 7-D parcheesi right there.

        Or y’know, Trump just being a lying POS who doesn’t bother to remember the promises he makes.

        • @NegativeInf@lemmy.world
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          12•11 months ago

          You fool! He’s been playing N-Dimensional Yahtzee the whole time!

          • @Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de
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            He’s the type to enjoy playing monopoly, but only when he gets to be the bank.

          • @some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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            1•11 months ago

            Nailed it. 12th-dimensional strip poker and no one wants to see that.

      • @fluxion@lemmy.world
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        10•11 months ago

        Keeps. His. Promises.*

        *doesn’t keep his promises

        • Billiam
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          2•11 months ago

          “Promises Made (by someone other than us), Promises Kept (by someone other than us).”

      • Kairos
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        2•11 months ago
        Tap for spoiler (gross)

        Like orgasm?

    • @orclev@lemmy.world
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      25•11 months ago

      Sure, but the demographic he’s campaigning for have a tenuous grasp on reality at best, you expect them to remember something that happened in 2016? I’m sure they’ve already constructed some elaborate scenario in their heads about how Trump tried to reveal the truth but a Oceans 11 worthy plot by The Deep State™, Bill Gates, and Barack Obama conspired to prevent its release.

      • @Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world
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        8•11 months ago

        That’s not even 2-D Candy Land

      • @dyathinkhesaurus@lemmy.world
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        It was George Soros, not Bill Gates. Please DYOR.

        Now you know.

    • @ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one
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      23•11 months ago

      Don’t worry Trump will release everything in 2 weeks, just like his healthcare plan, infrastructure plan, his taxes…

      • @hate2bme@lemmy.world
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        6•11 months ago

        Not so much the Epstein files…

  • @Zaktor@sopuli.xyz
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    41•11 months ago

    I was unaware “what happened to JFK” was actually a major ask from the RFK-curious crowd. Don’t they have more current conspiracy theories they want answers to?

    • @evidences@lemmy.world
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      It’s RFK Jr himself that’s probably asking for it. He’s said in the past he knows the CIA is behind the killing of his uncle. Says the CIA had him killed because JFK didn’t provide air support for bay of pigs and it pissed the CIA off. RFK claims he has proof but no one takes him serious or something.

      • @BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world
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        He’s crazy to think the CIA is behind it. The CIA handles overseas assassinations; domestic ones are the FBI’s domain.

        • @phoneymouse@lemmy.world
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          Well in this case, JFK fired CIA Director Dulles for the Bay of Pigs debacle. You’re right about the CIA being responsible for overseas assassinations. Dulles was involved with coups and assassinations in Guatemala and Iran. However, in the case of JFK, he made an exception and facilitated a domestic assassination since the case of his firing was personal.

        • @AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml
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          1•11 months ago

          You should read up on George HW Bush

    • @unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz
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      11•11 months ago

      If there are any sealed files remaining regarding the JFK killing, then FUCKING RELEASE THEM. honestly I don’t expect much from anybody. What’s Trump gonna do, show a tax return or a balance sheet.

  • Maple Engineer
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    33•11 months ago

    He asked the Harris camp for a cabinet post for his endorsement. If he helps trump become a dictator he will be Secretary of Health, I guarantee it.

    • Coelacanth
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      I would be very surprised if Trump honors the agreement. After the election is over RFK will already have served his purpose, and will have no leverage. Trump will claim they never had any deal and RFK will be left holding his dick.

      • @Notyou@sopuli.xyz
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        9•11 months ago

        Wasn’t that what happened with Chris Christie? Kushner convinced trump to go back in any deal after the election?

        • Coelacanth
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          I believe so. Was promised the AG position if I remember right.

      • Maple Engineer
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        3•11 months ago

        Very likely.

      • @Evrala@lemmy.world
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        Well, he’ll have his money from Russia at least. I listened to his whole speech, the part about Ukraine is straight out of Russian state media talking points.

      • TomAwsm
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        1•11 months ago

        RFK will be left holding his dick worm.

        FTFY

    • @nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca
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      6•11 months ago

      Yeah I think that’s the deal they made which is pretty low cost for Trump since he doesn’t know what that secretariat does and wouldn’t care if someone told him.

  • @binary45@lemmy.world
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    26•11 months ago

    I’m sure that Biden could do something really funny and just… declassify those documents.

    • vvvvan
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      I swear both of them have already promised and/or done this.

      Edit: Yes. Biden declassified 99% just last year. (Another thing Donnie promised, that Joe actually did. Infrastructure week!) I’m sure the final 1% will finally prove every conspiracy true… /s

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    • @funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works
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      4•11 months ago

      I imagine experts probably advise against it because there are far reaching implications that could cause significant diplomatic or intelligence issues, domestically and internationally and that Donald “Here’s Where Our Spy Satellites Are” Trump doesn’t give a fuck.

      • @binary45@lemmy.world
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        Pretty sure he’s already proved that. He’s already given information on our spies to Russia, which resulted in them getting killed.

  • @iAvicenna@lemmy.world
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    “Speaking at a rally in Glendale, Arizona, Trump also pledged that, if elected, he would “establish a panel of top experts” that would work with Kennedy, a prominent anti-vaccine advocate, to investigate childhood health problems.”

    Well if you stop vaccinations you will have a host of childhood problems, so you will never run out of things to do!

    • @58008@lemmy.world
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      5•11 months ago

      Can’t have childhood problems with no living children to have them.

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  • @expatriado@lemmy.world
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    wonder about polling impact on swing states, i got the feeling the reminding RFK jr enthusiasts don’t plan to vote for neither party, so not much change

    • @unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz
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      19•11 months ago

      Don’t let RFKJR voters forget: Trump presided over creation of the Covid-19 vaccine.

      • modifier
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        10•11 months ago

        I’ll feel dirty doing it, but I’ll do it.

    • @ABCDE@lemmy.world
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      5•11 months ago

      He cannot be removed from three, Michigan, Nevada and Wisconsin. I wonder if that many will still vote for him in those to act as much of a spoiler.

  • Media Bias Fact CheckerB
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  • @unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz
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    4•11 months ago

    Woo did that guy promise something

  • @shimdidly@lemmy.world
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    4•11 months ago

    I am so fed up with how the DNC has treated RFK Jr. The lawfare and taking him off the ballot in swing states is unacceptable. Really thinking of voting for Trump as a wakeup call to the Democratic party.

    • Blackbeard
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      .

    • @BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca
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      25•11 months ago

      The RNC is challenging 3rd parties on the ballots in multiple states. They also like challenging mail-in voting. https://www.reuters.com/legal/new-yorks-top-court-upholds-mail-in-voting-all-rejecting-republican-challenge-2024-08-20/

      Hell Republicans are even taking voter signed Abortion ballot measures to court to get them removed from the election. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/23/us/abortion-ballot-measures-have-had-success-this-year-is-their-biggest-challenge.html

      The Republican party also has a history of funding the Green party intentionally to draw Democratic voters away. https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/img-src-images-santorum1-jpg-hspace-5-vspace-5-align-left-gop-donors-funded-entire-pa-green-party-drive

      You’re the one that needs a wakeup call if you think that the Democrats challenging RFK Jr. is unacceptable but what the Republicans are doing is fine.

      • @shimdidly@lemmy.world
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        This is whataboutism at its finest. We need to hold our own party to a higher standard. I think we either need to vote 3rd party or for Trump to send a clear message.

        • Cethin
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          23•11 months ago

          In case anyone missed it, this guy is self proclaimed MAGA. He’s purposefully trying to pretend to be a Democrat voter to dissuade people, although he’s doing a piss poor job. Obviously he thinks everyone else is as dumb as he is.

        • @unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz
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          4•11 months ago

          Third party… or Trump. LOL i’m worried about genocide.

        • @BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca
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          2•11 months ago

          No we don’t. Play the game by the current rules of the system and win. Then try to change the system to be better for next time.

          If you give up a massive LEGAL advantage you could have taken and lose, you get nothing. Your standards mean nothing if you hand a win to an opponent who will wreck everything you hold dear.

        • @ryry1985@lemmy.world
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          You want to send them a message? Not voting speaks volumes. Do that instead.

    • theprogressivist
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      Do you really think cosplaying as MAGA brings any value to this platform or anything in general?

      • TVA
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        Not cosplaying, post history shows they’re just MAGA spreading FUD.

    • @return2ozma@lemmy.worldOP
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      I mean, your vote your choice but… yikes.

    • @orclev@lemmy.world
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      Of all the reasons to be mad at the DNC that’s what you’re going with? The way they treated Mr. Brainworms whose Venn Diagram between him and Trump has always been dangerously close to a circle?

    • @unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz
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      7•11 months ago

      If you were a RFK voter, then you were never a concern. You wanted to vote for a guy has a freezer full of roadkill.

    • @nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca
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      You’re not intelligent enough to execute this strategy.

    • @ABCDE@lemmy.world
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      He is still on the ballot in Michigan, Nevada and Wisconsin.

      The fuck are you on about.

    • @unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz
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      1•11 months ago

      Cool I too am a fan of lawfaremedia.org or whatever the fuck it is. That old dude using chalk to paint a Ukrainian flag in front of the Russian embassy was amazing. And then the Russians violated international customs and local law to clear it off.

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    • @return2ozma@lemmy.worldOP
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      Spoiler alert! Jeez! We wanted to wait for Trump to release what really happened. /s

    • @unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz
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      3•11 months ago

      I think it was worse than that. I was playing pixel dungeon today and an enormous robot shot poisonous gas at me! and that was it for jfk, rfk, and then trump.

    • @ABCDE@lemmy.world
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      …

    • TimeSquirrel
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      https://youtu.be/j2d6T5G2rrY?si=GLm3Uzx8ibe8HfdE

  • @buttPickle@lemmy.world
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    well that’s weird, but ok

  • @dodgy_bagel@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Too bad the shadow government won’t cooperate because Donald’s a prick.

    The only person who can actually convince the shadow government to act in the interest of the people is Kamala.

    vote kamala for shadow government envoy (president)

    • @nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca
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      Think better.

      • @dodgy_bagel@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        The lizard men have dirt on Trump and installed one of their own as his VP in order to assert more direct control on the front-facing side of the government?

        • @nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca
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          Nope. Try again.

          • @dodgy_bagel@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            The Irish!

  • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥
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    Without redacting anything?

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