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“Forget the fox!”
… “Contains ads”
No, I don’t think I will.
It’s on Chromium so I will not use them
Only reason I use it is because it’s seemingly the only browser on iOS that blocks YouTube ads, and allows for background play without paying for Premium.
If anyone knows how to do the same via Firefox (iOS), I’m all ears!
There’s a Safari extension in the App Store called vinegar that can do those things. AdGuard is another Safari extension that works well as an adblocker.
These two are exactly what I use on iOS also
Thanks, I’ll check them out!
Based on the description, this is the one you’re referring to?
Orion Browser can use Firefox extensions on iOS.
Is this the one?
Yep!
Wait is this extension not available on iOS? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/android/addon/video-background-play-fix/
No extension on iOS because apple prohibits browser engines from being distributed in their apps. Every browser there is a reskin of Safari
Eww, man apple is sleezy.
no extensions on ios
Contains Ads
I don’t know why anyone ever installed Brave
I think it’s more, “may contain ads, if you opt-in to earning BAT.”
Make it
Contains a way to earn some kind of currency
So the browser itself is like an ad
The ads were the propagandas we met along the way!
If there is a product that offers you to earn money, it’s value is decreasing.
Brave still does include ads enabled by default. You need to disable sponsored images in the New Tab page.
Haven’t found anything on Android to replace it with, and on Desktop swapped to it after Chrome Manifest V3.
I work as a web dev, and after the install I just disabled the wallet etc, and am left with a browser with native quick dark mode toggle, built in support for ublock lists, and otherwise familiar Chrome experience, with full extension support and foldable device support.
Firefox has certain UI/UX choices I dislike, and they are behind in implementing lots of features (that are rarely an issue to non devs).
Cromite. Every time you use Brave you help promote their right-wing CEO known for donating money to ban gay marriage.
Could you explain how that logic works? I don’t support their CEOs points of views by simply browsing the web with the app.
I can understand how mentioning this, I would, but I was compelled to reply to your question.
Edit: Naos question*
Edit 2: I don’t see Cromite in the app store, and have near zero will for tinkering/manual updating after a days work in tech.
CEOs don’t just make money on ads, they also make money on users that use their apps. Every download or ping then Brendan Eich can go to investors & say that he now has more potential to make them money, so they give him investments in return, which then he can pocket a few million & when/if Trump tries to get legislation passed to ban gay marriage, then Eich is going to likely be helping fund getting that passed again.
I find this weird, as I’ve seen trans and lqbtq ads in brave befofe disabling ads. I checked Eich out now, is the whole controversy really just due a 1000$ donation to a christian group (which had anti gay agendas among other things)?
I’m honestly just a bit baffled, might be I’m just very out of the loop.
The money was for the campaign for Prop 8 itself, not some organization that he had no clue what it was going for. Plus, despite claiming he regrets it, he then has continued to defend his antigay position on social media.
CEO’s get money from people using their products, and Google’s CEO spends a lot of that money lobbying in order to push the government further right. It’s not a tough thing to follow. “Support” isn’t about whether or not you agree with them, it’s about whether or not you help fund their actions when you have other options that wouldn’t.
CEOs* get money
Doing the Lords work.
Just a small rec: Obtainium has been great for managing git sources (how I get my Cromite), I don’t think I really needed any dev experience at all.
A small pain is that some repo owners only publish source code, but you know, that’s just how it goes
I feel you. I use Firefox on Android (technically Mull), and it’s generally pretty good. It does seem like some sites don’t work properly on mobile Firefox that work fine on desktop, but I haven’t looked into why (and I’m guessing it’s those missing features you’re talking about).
DivestOS is discontinued, and together with it Mull. It won’t receive further updates including security updates. Based on F-Droid there is a known vulnerability. It is recommended to cease usage of Mull ASAP.
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2025-01/Dang, good to know, thanks. I mostly used it because it was available on F-Droid.
You should have received a warning about Mull in fdroid. It recommends to uninstall asap.
Yeah, I probably did. I just took care of it, not sure why I totally spaced it.
A current forked up replacement is ironfox.
Vivaldi is working nice as my Chrome stand-in.
No extension support sadly, I still have it as my secondary on desktop.
Personally I really want to use one browser across all my systems so I can get tab and bookmark syncing. But Firefox is just so bad on both Android and iPad OS.
On my phone, I try and do the “framed” daily game. You start typing your guess and it pops up autocomplete suggestions. Except if I’m on Android on my phone, where I start typing and nothing happens. Even the letter I typed doesn’t appear in the text box. The browser just completely freezes. On every other browser I’ve tried, including Firefox on desktop, it works perfectly. It also seems to have worse touch targets than other browsers. If I go to a poorly-mobile-optimised site in other browsers on Android, such as Lemmy’s web UI, somehow other browsers are just really good at knowing what I was trying to click on. I can quite easily tap a small button or link that’s near other buttons or links, and I manage to get the right one. In Firefox that doesn’t happen. Much more often if I try that, the wrong link gets clicked, and I have to go back and pinch to zoom before carefully clicking what I wanted.
The iPad OS experience is not as fundamentally broken as that, but is instead just…clumsy. On some sites I’ll scroll and elements of the page will move about or images will resize, in ways they don’t on other browsers. More than once it has caused me to click something I didn’t intend because it moved into the place that what I wanted was previously.
I really want to like Firefox. On desktop it’s a particularly good experience, being able to install real extensions without Chrome’s restrictions, while not shoving AI slop down your throat like Edge does these days. But it’s just so very hard to fully commit when the experience on my phone is so poor.
Just tried framed out of curiosity, it works fine on my Pixel 9.
I dabble in web development.
I use ungoogled chromium for that. LibreWolf for most other things.
If a website works in Chrome, it might not work in Firefox. If a website works in Firefox, it’ll work in Chrome.
Develop on Firefox.
That’s daft.
Develop wherever you like the dev tools, test everywhere.
Vanilla Firefox is not clean either. It
- Has sponsored articles on new tabs
- Uses Google by default
Though, these are trivial to disable and even come pre-done on the linux distro I’m using to writ this comment.
Honestly, I’m fine with Google being the default search engine (since they pay a lot for the priviledge and it’s trivial to remove). What I acrually have a problem with is Firefox using Google Firebase for analytics and Google whatever for “safe search” queries, etc. These are a lot more hidden, which I find borderline malicious. With the search engine you at least get the notification of “fuck I’m on Google” whenever you search for something, so it doesn’t do all that much harm since it’s very opaque, unlike having to refer people to ffprofiles to purge google completely.
On that note - if you want to get rid of Google from Firefox as much as possible visit ffprofiles. It has it all nicely explained. You just tick some boxes and apply the profile as per the ~5-step instructions. You’ll be done in less than 20 minutes.
Brave? The browser that hides ads and substitutes their own? The one that keeps you private from Google AdSense so they can sell your data themselves? The one that keeps their Chromium build lean, so that you don’t notice the crypto miner running along side of it?
The fucking PayPal Honey of browsers? When the fuck did they ever look good? They’re like the “Banzai Buddy” of the HTML5 era
CEO is a bigot, too.
No elaboration on that ?
I thought it was common knowledge; he donated to some anti-LGBTQ political campaigns in the US which ultimately lead him to resign from Mozilla and start up his own browser. Which is good enough reason in my opinion to avoid it regardless of what ever else might be good about Brave.
Thanks for elaborating & you were kind enough to inform (unlike the fascist guttrotten clowns who disliked)
I have been using Brave for the last year and I did like it as a mobile browser. But today I noticed that when I was searching about abortion and etopic pregnancy (fact checking a really dumb article) that all of a sudden their AI crap was throwing “no results available” errors. I checked some other left leaning topics and sure enough it no longer gives you AI results. So I immediately uninstalled that shit from my phone because fuck them.
Is not having AI results really a bad thing?
Not at all. I never wanted to see AI and it kept turning itself back on this was just the final push for me to uninstall it.
I’m guessing it’s more about the clear bias on display, wherein certain topics are suppressed
Given the ceo this shouldn’t come as a shock.
Brave has never had a good look.
Fuck Brave, it’s based on Chromium and contains crypto BS.
The same Brave founded by the anti-LGBTQ+ & anti-DEI CEO that doesn’t believe that gay people should have the same rights as straight people? Color me shocked!
Yep, Brave is the butt-hurt edgelord of browsers.
And they made a donation to an anti gay marraige org on mozillas behalf.
WTF‽ Were they trying to frame Mozilla as anti-LGBT?
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Incorrect, he was CEO in 2014
I think anyone who is already using Firefox knows very well why they wouldn’t want to use Brave 🤷 (My main reasons were being a Chromium browser and having unwanted crypto features included.)
Edit: Oh yes, and the CEO’s homophobia is not helping either…
Do you have a source for the edit, please?
(…) anger over his $1,000 (£600) donation in 2008 to support Californian anti-gay marriage laws bubbled over when he was appointed chief executive.
Thanks
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Tor Browser is available on iOS :) should be able to hide mostly everything lol
It’s technically correct with all of these but extremely disingenuous.
Kind of funny they list their built-in, paid VPN as a positive feature and not a negative. Maybe they were running out of good things to say about… Themselves.
Granted, Mozilla also shot themselves in the foot by saying Firefox was better for not blocking ads by default, but that’s a different story for a different day
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Well, actually it should be:
-❌️ Limited or no terrifying and intimidating uniforms
Firefox does block trackers by default, but apparently that’s “limited protection”, according to who the fuck knows, so it gets the ❌.
Out of the ling of things I will never trust, free VPN is near the top of the list
The real good: Baked in Youtube ad-blocking with a full dev team playing keep up with youtube Better at anti-fingerprinting Built-in mediocre TOR support.
The real bad: They will sell your data. They will sell your data from their VPN
The rest of their bad is optional. Don’t use them for search and don’t use their crypto.
If you’re going to use them, at least keep a fully equivalently outfitted copy of firefox, you don’t want to get stuck if they finally decide to turn full evil.
if they finally decide to turn full evil.
Yeah this is the brave experience. Free and open source product that behaves as advertised… from a company that acts like they’re perpetually on the brink of fucking you over. Really hope this doesn’t happen, brave’s approach to antifingerprinting is actually quite interesting and completely different to what we see in the firefox-based hardened browsers.
I honestly really like what they do with the fingerprinting. But it’s just a straight trade. Now amazon can’t follow me directly, but Brave will certainly sell Amazon the info that I shopped at Home Depot looking for discontinued air filters :)
FF fingerprinting with UO and privacy badger are by no means bad, they are actually quite acceptable.
What does privacy badger do that isn’t covered by UO? Is it worth it to install privacy badger if I already use a browser like librewolf that nukes all data every time it’s restarted?
It’s EFF’s tracker blocker. All they have is their name, so I have a lot of trust in them. I use it in concert with chrome and firefox based browsers. In FF it tightens up the tracking a bit. Doesn’t eat much ram/time.
Not very professional.
It’s not the 90s and they are not rivaling fast food chains.
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Brave? You mean “browser for bigots”?
Two of the reasons I’d never use it. The other is not wanting to support the Google monopoly.
i had no idea…
Daily reminder that Brave uses Chromium, an open source project where all the commits are approved or denied by Google devs.
Hahahhaah. If they are so desperate they are trying to knock off the 10 or so users on Firefox they must really be in dire straights.
Broke one of the golden rules of advertising (at least the advertising lessons I learned from an old advertising guy I knew a long time ago)
Never mention your competition in your advertising … because every time you do, you’ve given them free advertising.
And it’s just bad to say, for example, about other person or country. Like some candidate for president in other liberal country will say “yes, we have issues, but hey, at least we are not like shitty Texas where abortion mostly illegal, so vote for us!”
