I hope NATO does get involved. Not the same way Trump hopes though…
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I hope you’re prepared to pay an extra 25% on that export.
It’d definitely be a more worthy destination for my tax dollars than where they’re currently going. I support this initiative.
No, no, the importer pays the tax. You might want to send them a little extra if you want to help them out with that.
the importer pays the tax
Officially, but in reality the extra cost gets passed down to the consumers in all countries involved, following the usual recipe of the rich getting all the gains and the poor getting all the expenses.
Yeah, and we’d still all get fucked by this export as there are still a bunch of oligarchs left to bone us afterwards.
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It was a joke, dude 🙄
Yes!
Not getting banned on Lemmy moment
Yeah, what’s he smoking thinking that they would help invade a sovereign nation?!
Dumbass doesn’t even understand that NATO is a DEFENSIVE pact and that Denmark is a member. Not wanting to give you their territory doesn’t count as an attack.
Also if he really cared about security he would have strengthened his ties with his allies instead of pushing them away. The US is far less secure now that it was 3 months ago.
Not wanting to give you their territory doesn’t count as an attack.
Having been married to a narcissist for 11 years, yes, that’s literally how they think. My ex would fly off the handle if I told her “no” to sex or whatever it was that she wanted. She’d throw out all kinds of excuses about how it was my fault somehow, and even during our divorce, when we were literally separated, she forced her way into my room (we still lived in the same house for a few weeks) just to “cuddle” and would throw a fit if I didn’t give in. Remember, we were getting divorced. I had to put my foot down hard on that line. And yes, she would get violent.
Orange presidents with tiny dick syndrome calling a country’s refusal to give up territory an “attack” is not much different, fundamentally.
NATO isn’t really defensive.
It’s two main Engagements - Kosovo and Afghanistan - were pretty solidly offensive imo.
Kosovo was UN not NATO. Only NATO engagement was Afghanistan and the Taliban had claimed responsibility for an act of war against a NATO member. Now the actual war was fought entirely in Afghanistan but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t a defensive war. It just doesn’t feel like one.
Don’t take this to mean I supported the war in Afghanistan or the many horrible things US troops did while there. (nor do I support the Taliban or their practises and tactics). But NATO is by rule and charter very much a defensive alliance. So much so that if Trump attacks Greenland he will have to face the rest of NATO. Which is something I don’t think he comprehends, it’s obvious that to him the US is the ruler of NATO.
Ok yeah my bad abt Kosovo.
Re Afghanistan I would say 9/11 was not an act of war by Afghanistan, and more a terrorist attack by non-state actors. And the closest involved state actors were Saudi, Pakistani, and U.S moreso than Afghan anyway.
I’m sceptical about the extent to which NATO is controlled by the U.S vs. other members but I’m not too knowledgeable, but it seems at minimum U.S has outsized influence on NATO anyway, as like all the Supreme Allied commanders of Europe have been from the US I think, even though the head position of NATO has more European staff.
But yeah with article 5 and other factors it’s definitely possible Europe would defend Greenland, and I don’t think any of them would help invade it except maybe Hungary lol.
I think the talban where hosting them and didn’t want to snitch.
Kill him. I’m Canadian. Come at me.
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Can we stop these kinds of comments? It’s exactly what MAGA will use to rile up violence against Canada. Who doesn’t like a fun plumber video game but we’re better off encouraging and helping Americans to organise.
i understand what you’re saying in a broader sense, but we’re like 100 people here on an internet forum and i’m just fucking around.
but fuck you (don’t worry i still love you just per your comment), and here’s why:
it’s one thing for a guy like me who means absolutely nothing to make a joke. in this case it’s not a joke, though - that totally should-be-killed-motherfucker is threatening my country’s sovereignty and also my personal rights and freedoms. it’s another for that totally totally should-be-killed-motherfucker to make those threats as the bleater of the free world.
NATO will do exactly nothing to help the bloated orange shit-weasel take over Greenland.
That’s not true, I’m sure NATO will answer NATO’s call to help kick NATO’s ass.
The orange shitgibbon was seated right next to Mark Rutte as he made his threats against Greenland and Canada yesterday and the Chief of NATO sat there smiling.
That’s because he’s a diplomat. Rutte is no friend of Russia or Russian proxies (like the bronzed turd).
Which side does he think NATO would support?
The mighty US of A needs NATO to invade an island with 56,000 inhabitants?
Is Wakanda located on that island or what?
Maybe he meant against us not supporting us?
Greenland and Canada are NATO countries. You cannot attack or forcefully annex another NATO country. If he leaves NATO, he will be up against Canada & Europe. The US is one Twizzler away from having the entire world sanction & boycott it.
And who does that benefit on the large scale?
This isn’t Trump being a greedy idiot. This is systematic destruction of the US from inside out. Can’t say Russia didn’t warn you though:
“We will take America without firing a shot. We do not have to invade the US. We will destroy you from within.”
— Nikita Khrushchev January 18th, 1956
It’s pretty clear he’s a putin asset.
The more I look into Greenland situation the more I am thinking there’s already a psychological campaign in play to get them to be part of the US. They’re legitimately trying to get away for the Danish government and there’s a strong US presence there already with military bases. I suspect the target is to get them to hand over the keys not only willingly but ask for it.
Then we drill drill drill dig dig dig
They are working on interfering in Canada too and have funded far-right groups, including the freedom convoy.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trump-annexation-destabilizing-canada-1.7479890
Given that he regards the Department of Justice as his personal litigators, it makes sense that he’d regard NATO as his enforcers.
He wants Greenland the same way as Putin wanted extra countries. How many countries did Russia invade between 2000 and 2020?
National security is just a pretext. Greenland already contributes to your national security you king. They’re a part of NATO. You already have force projection up there if required.
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His entire campaign and following is about division and hate. And the lies to cause said division.
An attack on one is an attack on all. I always wondered what would happen if one NATO country attacked another.
Aggressor gets kicked out and NATO has to defend the attacked
Yep. Because that’s exactly what happened with Greece and Turkey…
Well, it was close to happening with greece and turkey. And I dont think cyprus is quite the same thing as the US trying to take over greenland, is it?
I am talking about the Imia crisis in 1996.
I always wondered what would happen if one NATO country attacked another.
Putin sits back and laughs his head off.
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Literally what’s wrong with you? How dense can one carrot be?
A literal carrot would be an improvement over the current orange tyrant.
Amazing. It is like they want people to hate America as much as possible before America starts confronting China.
As a Canadian, I don’t know which country i hate more at this point.
I know I’m supposed to understand that China is horrible, and the young US dick-tatorship is still nothing compared to Chinese high-tech totalitarian dystopia… but somehow, seeing USA, a supposed former friend and ally, turn into a ruthless, unprincipled traitor, aligning itself with Russia… With Russia, of all states! And spitting in the face of the hero of our times…
We know Russians here in Poland. We know how their army works, we know their mentality. When Ukraine reported war crimes, we believed them. Seeing US backstab Ukraine like that… It’s just too much. I think the American brand is dead for us.
China has done about 1/100th the crap the us has. Even at its best, the us was overthrowing legitimate governments and destroying entire nations. China may not be perfect, but they are a whole hell of a lot better than the us.
China is a shit country. But like if you look at where they are coming from historically I think they are moving forwards. America is moving backwards. China has a ton of potential and I hope the chinese use it well. I am less hopeful for americans at this point.
Putin stooge wants an easy war somewhere.
He probably wants that the NATO acquires Greenland, Canada, etc. for the US.
He is one greasy piece of shit.
Trumps fundamental and broad stupidity amazes every day.
