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Nationalize golf courses, make them parklands.
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All the ones near me are full of trees, conifers so still not helping pollinators but it is food and shelter for native animals. Golf is not intrinsically bad, the sport can exist without being so classist and environmentally destructive, we just need to accept kinda-janky conditions. Like one my friends live by: it’s right by a tidal flat and quite muddy when the water’s high, the grass is dotted with sand patches, and there’s ducks and geese grazing the lawn or rooting around the marshy edges constantly.
Environmentalism is important but so are outdoor recreation spaces. We don’t need to live in Lothlorien. (We do need to stop using so many pesticides)
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It’s not ideal, sure. All man-made structures are bad in that sense, and an 18 hole golf course is far from the most efficient user/area recreation facility. Doesn’t mean it’s an evil and irredeemable pastime.
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It depends on where you’re talking. The golf courses around me are often built on land that isn’t good for housing. Ground won’t support even single family homes. That said, returning them to forest or prairie land as a public park is an option. Which is fine by me.
Then where will we dump all the herbicides?
Trump will think he owns them then all then.
Another pro communism meme
Communism is when no golf
Nolf
It was fun, but NOLF 2 was better.
Back in the day they were saying “don’t let the terrorists win”
Now it’s communists?
Are there any real communists left in the world?
The only existing communist states left in the world are in China, Cuba, Laos, Vietnam, and North Korea (DPRK).
…and even these states do not claim to have achieved communism in their countries but are supposedly building and working toward its establishment.
China is the most capitalist communist country I’ve ever seen
China is just capitalism with extra spicy corruption.
China is a fascist economy without the extreme jingoism
The fear of communists came way before the fear of terrorists.
It’s retro fear.
Retcom
So like, a long-ass time ago, a populist movement started overthrowing capitalist economies or monarchies and ever since then, anyone who wants to get a lot of money from everyone else has been deathly terrified of the thing. Never mind it never really worked. Never mind if it DID work, you wouldn’t need all that money.
It’s always just people who really want to feel special worried that something is going to make them feel less special. Usually it’s something sexual like insecurity about their dicks or other men banging their girls. (No really, almost every authoritarian/fascist movement has started with sexually insecure men, this has been studied.)
So this all really boils down to some people saying we can all level the field so everyone is equal and have the same opportunities, and the dudes who know they can never feel equal to others raging against the very notion because they are really, really insecure about but obsessed with the dicks of other men.
As a result you have the suffering of billions of people. I wish I could make it make sense.
The threat of communism is far more real to empire which is the by far the worst terrorist.
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Were you under the impression anyone thinks China is communist?
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Right-wingers, whether fash or red fash (tankies), agree that China is commie because they have no idea what communism is.
Do people really use tankies for anything other than entertainment?
The types who bleat about “actually existing socialism” do.
Cuba has the best argument, IMO. The people they killed/tossed out mostly had it coming. Most of the problems can be directly attributed to US sanctions, and those sanctions only serve the interests the people who got thrown out (or their decedents, at this point). Both the US and Cuba are harmed more than they’re helped by those sanctions.
If I wanted an example of Marxist-Leninism working, Cuba would be it, even with obvious issues. The rest are only successful if you have a shitty definition of success.
Are there any real communists left in the world?
It’s arguable if there ever really were any. Hasn’t been an actual communist nation.
But it sure makes a handy-dandy villain when anyone suggests implementing socialist plans that may take even a shaving of a dime from hungry corporations who need perpetual growth.
Hasn’t been an actual communist nation.
Communism is directly incompatible with the violent hierarchy of states.
I fully agree, it’s an idea ahead of it’s time, but only because our population isn’t ready. We’re too flawed and stupid and emotional and superstitious, and the black pill is we always will be. We have plateaued.
I say this and get immediately met with “But they said before a century ago, they said our tech and knowledge peaked!”
And I’m not talking about our tech or our textbooks, I’m saying how much abstraction and complexity the average human can comprehend, and we’re only as fast as our slowest runner. Our inherent language abilities aren’t sufficient even in our smartest populations, we are still completely ruled by emotional reactions, we have brains that write stories to explain feelings and we don’t question that the stories aren’t logical, and then use these conclusions to write policy which corrals us even further.
We will continue to make more and more amazing tools and machines that surpass us, but we won’t have a higher general level of understanding and cognition than we do now. We don’t have the evolutionary pressures, and in fact our brains are generally shrinking because being smart isn’t necessarily a survival tool in nature.
China is not communist.
The only existing communist states left in the world are in China, Cuba, Laos, Vietnam, and North Korea (DPRK).
None of these places are communist.
There are many actual commies/leftists but we’re completely attacked and obscured by the hegemonic right-wing ideologies (eg. liberalism, fascism, etc.).
Unironically yes. Fuck golf
Seriously. SO much land for a few old white pricks. And there are like no rules, can use any balls, any clubs, etc. imagine if baseball had no rules and you could use a bat made of anything. Or your own ball when you pitch. Wtf. Also expensive as fuck for no reason than gatekeeping it.
I don’t know what the fuck you’re on but there are rules in golf dude. This comment is as bad as the actual post
Golf LOVES its rules. Seriously.
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Can we make golf less bad? Like, public courses, make it so that the grass isn’t some perfect standard import grass. Make it local even if it’s “less than ideal” for the game. Desert courses with no grass. I dunno
So, disc golf?
What about disc golf, but with balls? Ball golf?
Ball Golf? That’s something you usually have to pay extra for.
Or just “ballf.” Bolf?
We need more “Bolf” license plates in the gift shop.
I repeat, we are sold out of Bolf license plates.
My son is also named Borf.
Came here for that
“good” courses exist. They are just quite rare
In my area there are at least 2 courses that have very reasonable member fees (not more than other sports clubs) where things like golf clubs and balls renting is included if you need them. Plus all kinds of free weekends
They are also not targeted to rich snobs. So you can actually meet people there without being looked down upon
As for the course itself: they are located in area that are not really suitable for things like apartment development etc. And they take care of the more wild parts of nature (making sure that some area are completely off limits during nesting season due example)
Does it have an impact compared to it not being there? Sure. But they do a lot for the surrounding, and it gets people into nature that otherwise probably wouldn’t
All the courses in the middle of cities or climates that don’t naturally support a course can go fuck themselves, though
My hometown has a public mini golf course. It scales really well, and it coexists with a forest.
Fuck, don’t threaten me with a good time.
Oh no! What will men in loveless marriages do?
There’s always fishing
Under communism you need to catch fish for everyone though!!
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Good. Fuck golf.
(Mini golf excluded)
How is your feeling towards disc golf? It still required a large amount of area, but the grass doesn’t have to be perfectly cut, and the sport allows a lot more trees and plants - in fact it requires a lot more vegetation to make an interesting course.
I’ve seen a disc golf course be integrated into a local park, without any damage to nature. If only more sports could be this eco-friendly.
My local course is on the foot of a mountain, with the course utilizing the trees and natural open areas to make nice lines as well as some mountain sides and hills. Very few trees were chopped in the process, and it’s not really an area suitable for housing or industries. However, I know that disc golf has quite a different course style at more professional levels. A lot of the courses on pro tours are basically golf courses integrated with disc golf, which doesn’t really help with killing off ball-and-club golf.
Also they’re usually open to the public, non-exclusive, etc.
So we could win twice?
Fuck golf. George Carlin was right. And that’s just the beginning.
George Carlin died too fucking young.
For this reason alone…
My local golf course regularly floods and is unusable by anything other than ducks for months at a time.
So capitalism isn’t exactly doing the game any favours either.
I’d be okay with that. Golf courses offend me. So much land wasted that could be put to better uses…like landfills, or cemeteries for the indigent, or nuclear waste storage. (Or housing, or growing food.)
They recently closed a course near me and now they’ve stripped out all the trees and are building a 300 acre development of McMansions. The course was also a home to deer and wild turkey, several stands of nice old hardwoods, some ponds with ducks and geese. Be careful what you wish for.
