If you look at the personality organization of malignant narcissists, you learn that their sense of self and even their memory is fragmentary. They’re in the realm of borderline personality organization, which is halfway between neurotic (normal) and schizoid.
This is why it makes sense to them that history should start fresh every day. They don’t connect actions with consequences because their brains are not set up to do that.
I think he wants it removed because of the effect on Tesla. He’d prefer if he could do things without consequences for his actions.
Remember when he was investigated by the SEC for Tweeting out that he was buying back Tesla stock for $420 apiece?
And when he got booted out of the company he started because he insisted on naming it “X” despite everyone telling him that made it sound like a porn site?
And when he accused those divers of being pedophiles because they rescued stranded children before he could find a way to make it about himself?
And when just about every time he announces he’s saved government money, the number “saved” is immediately backtracked?
And how the whole reason he owns Twitter is he made on offer that he immediately tried to back out of and would have if not for the threat of a multimillion dollar suit for breach of contract?
Elon Musk does not think shit through. However smart or stupid he is, however deeply he does or doesn’t believe the Trump Administration’s fascist bullshit, he does not dedicate much time to thinking about it before he does stuff. I do not doubt for a moment that he performed and meant to perform a Nazi salute. As to what he was thinking, I cannot say. Maybe he cannot. He definitely has sympathies for anti-semitic and racist movements, but I don’t think he thought he was going to be hailed as the savior of the Aryan race for doing it. Maybe he thought it would be funny. Maybe he thought it would be “ironic.” Maybe he thought it would get “teh libz” in a tizzy. He probably didn’t think he would have to avoid ever going to Germany again under threat of being arrested. Whatever he was thinking, he probably wasn’t thinking it more than five seconds before he did it. And he’s clearly not thinking it now. Because despite being the richest man on the planet, Elon Musk is a bumblefuck who doesn’t think things through and has thus far been able to buy or otherwise ride his way out of any consequences of the things he has done without thinking about them.
That diver stunt was my “this guy is stupid and I shouldn’t listen to anything he says” moment. Before that I was just skeptical. No idea how he had any credibility with a decent human being after that.
Did Germany make him persona non grata or something? Or is there a standing arrest on sight order for Nazis in general
The latter.
They take neo-fascism seriously.
He doesn’t want it removed. He wants to target those using it against him. Nazis using it to praise him are not in the crossfires now.
I thought we were all about deporting immigrants and their children?
Imagine the leverage you’d need to have to make “the richest person in the world” do a Hitler salute on live TV. Sure, people who tolerate, much less support, Nazi stuff “are Nazis too” but I’m willing to believe that he might not have actual genocidal / thinking races are subhuman / etc beliefs and if he does, it happened recently - way after he became compromised.
To a certain extent, “bad” people succeed in capitalism and become powerful because of inherent personality traits, and a combination of lack of consequences and privilege creating lack of empathy. But to a much greater extent, I think power is handed to people once enough blackmail material is gathered
The pedophilia shit is not a coincidence.
Comparison of Nazi salute circa 1940 to Musk salute circa 2025:
I never actually watched the video. Now that I watched I think he didn’t mean to make a Nazi salute. He pressed his chest before raising his hand. I think he meant to salute his audience. That would also align with what he’s saying.
Yes, the way a Nazi would - now shut the fuck up about it not being a Nazi salute.
Yes, the way a Nazi would - now shut the fuck up about it not being a Nazi salute.
You shut the fuck up. Bring your toxicity and unhappy life elsewhere.
Imagine some random person on the internet said something you don’t like and you immediately get triggered like that. Laughable.
Anything remotely Nazi related should probably trigger people
People on the internet are way too soft and emotional these days. Man-up and stop wining about trivialities. My comment was not Nazi related. It was just an observation. No reason to be insulting.
People on the internet are way too soft and emotional these days. Man-up and stop wining about trivialities.
Yes. That includes you, here, in this thread.
Why are you defending fascists by running defense for them? That’s a really bad look.
Imagine being tolerant of fucking nazis lmao. C’mon bro. That’s lame.
You’re making a lot of assumtions. Musk is a prick and I hate him. What makes you think I tolerate him?
Guy goes out of his way to defend Musk, turns around with ‘BuT AcKsHuAlLy I hAtE mUsK! cHeCkMaTe LoSeRs!’
I’ll be reminding you of this conversation if I see you commenting again.
Don’t bother deleting or editing your messages, I’ve already got them screenshot and saved.
First of all, I’m not defending anyone. You lack reading comprehension. Me saying I interpret this not as a Nazi salute does not imply I like Musk or think he’s not a Nazi.
Second, I’m not deleting any messages. They got removed by mods for being insulting. So are other messages by other people who insulted me. But you can see that as it says “removed by mods”. Back to reading comprehension…
Go ahead and save screenshots of my comments and fill up your storage. You realize how this sounds right? You need to relax buddy. This is just a random thread on the internet. Nothing life-changing. Go outside, see the sun.
It’s people like you why I have to keep this damn gif around:
Also if they say they are not 100% the same tell them that American Nazis did add the chest slap to the whole thing.
Seeing this, or a similar one, was what made me realise there was no other plausible explanation for what he was doing.
Cool cool cool. So since it looks like a Nazi salute and was maybe accidental, he will surely apologize for the appearance and make sure no one misunderstands and thinks he is green lighting Naziism. That would be a good way to know. Should not take more than 24 hours. Even a tweet would help. Or a Xit or whatever we should call it now.
He had ample opportunity to go back and apologize, say he didn’t mean to, with how it looked, anything. But no he went to double down with anti semitism, and supporting the afd. He didn’t, it was a nazi salute, and it shouldn’t be shouldn’t be defended.
I’d say you’re dumb as dog shit, but comparatively you make dog shit look smart.
Thanks <3 This comment actually made my day.
Just wanted some attention, eh?
Started with a genuine comment. But with all of these trolls insulting me for no reason it quickly turned into amusement and trolling back.
They are both doing it wrong. Nazis don’t even know how to do it properly xD.
Hitler is doing his own salute wrong?
What do you mean? Hitler is doing the Roman salute. Which is not what Musk was doing in this video.
The claim that the salute has its origins in ancient Rome is dubious at best and ignores the fact that the salute is immediately associated with Nazism. Not a single Roman work of art depicts the salute. Don’t you think that’s a little fishy? There is evidence that it actually originated from the National Fascist Party, under Mussolini. Suffice to say there’s no good evidence that it originated from ancient Rome as opposed to it being a relatively new thing starting from the turn of the 20th century and originating in fascism.
Do you have any historical references to Romans doing that? Cause all I can find are fascists doing a salute called a Roman salute.
Roman salute comes from rome indeed. Its historical indeed, namely q930s. Coincidentally made by the same people who invented faschsim, coincidentally named faschists.
Read a single fucking book.
Exactly.
I’m blocking you, but before I do I want you to know I hope you go out like Hitler did.
Unbelievable how such a trivial and unimportant comment that I wrote while taking a shit can trigger such a fuss here. Insults after insults. Why can you not relax for a moment and be happy? I meant no harm with my comment. Blocking accounts on the Fediverse based on that… Pathetic
Spez is also a cocksucker
There’s nothing wrong with sucking cocks. There’s everything wrong with being a greedy little Nazi bootlicker pigboy.
Don’t forget creating and awarding a unique “Pimp Daddy” trophy for the founder and moderator of r/jailbait and r/creepshots!
I’m sorry, what?? You mean Spez?
u/violentacrez moderated a whole bunch of NSFW subs during the early days of Reddit, and was a notorious and infamous user. Among the subs he founded and moderated were r/jailbait and r/creepshots (which consisted of pictures of women taken without their consent).
For his services to Reddit, a custom, unique “Pimp Daddy” trophy was created and awarded to him. This is all ancient Reddit history at this point, though. u/violentacrez’s account was suspended eventually and subs like jailbait and creepshots are closed down these days.
Damn, that’s gross. Thanks for the quick Reddit history. Adding it to my many justifications for deleting my Reddit account.
Anytime.
He looks like a fucking serial killer
Oh god it’s like a fucking mirror. Vile.
because it didn’t work.
the whole idea was to trigger the libs with a vague gesture, like that one bitch who turned it into an awkward wave, but he got a little too into it and now people are setting his cars on fire.
I think it’s more that he got a bit too excited about the way the far right can get away with absolutely anything. The media will make excuses for you, the fan base will love it, the more outrageous it is the more it makes libs cry. The democrats will impotently voice objections, the Overton window will move as required, and you will have gotten away with it. I think he wanted to be the star of that whole circus.
