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10 years ago I wrote a report on scope creep and used Star Citizen as the subject. I’m glad I never gave this project even a penny.
That’s amazing that 10 years ago it was obvious… and here we are…
Anyone who knew Chris Roberts previous projects knew it was going to go this way. That man doesn’t know the meaning of scope.
We all knew. We gave him money anyway because WHEN (or better: if) he delivers, he always delivered good stuff. Wingco, wingco 2, strike commander, wingco3, 4, prophecy, starlancer and freelancer. That last one mostly.
I gambled with money i could lose. Still doesn’t think it was a wrong decision. Is my money gone? Yeah. It cost me, in those12 years, like 1 restaurant visit.
I also gambled the same amount with elite dangerous. That one delivered. So 1 out of 2 ain’t bad.
I dunno if everyone knew lol, buut all joking aside? I agree with you. it’s only a grift/scam if one doesn’t feel good about the money and time spent. Also anyone throwing $$ in nowadays better be doing it with open eyes like yours or they’re fools
Given what happened to freelancer, I think the only way you should give Chris Roberts your money is if he agrees to lead the project for two years, then quit and hand it over to someone who can actually finish it.
Amazing things happen when you get 100x more funding than expected
Yeah, he realized that the hook was worth more than the actual game. Why finish a game that could tank, when you could promote hopes and dreams forever?
Why finish a game that could tank, when you could promote hopes and dreams forever?
Sounds a lot like organized
crimereligion.Which game? SQ42 or SC? Neither have been in development as long as modern AAA titles
GTA 6 is coming out this year and it started development after RDR2. That’s 6-7 years. Cyberpunk 2077 started main production after Blood and Wine, which means development time was 4-5 years. Baldur’s Gate 3 development most likely started after DoS2, which means it was in development for 6-7 years. In fact most AAA games finish development in less than 7 years and anything going beyond 7 usually has some kind of a development hell (and usually ends up being bad).
Star Citizen has been in development for 12 years. If it released today it will be the third or fourth longest game development time, except it’s not releasing today and considering the state of the game it can easily get the top spot of the longest time in development game. It is nowhere near the standard development time of a modern AAA title. You could say SQ42 is in the modern AAA development time (if you’re being generous with the start date of the development), but even there you’re not getting the full game as the release will be episodic. Who knows how long it will take for all the episodes of SQ42 to release.
Star Citizen, of course. SQ42 is just an extension of those hopes and dreams.
Neither have been in development as long as modern AAA titles
That’s false from every interpretation of the sentence.
How long has GTA 6 been in development, and at what cost?
Stop cherry-picking. GTA’s development cycle is atypical.
Also, the key thing about that is the number 6 in its name. It’s the SIXTH game! Out of the FIVE that they released! They get to have a big large studio and spent an asinine amount of money on a new game because they already made millions on other released games.
And another studio builds two games at once with less funding and it’s unacceptable? Lol
That is just blatantly false.
Humanity will have warp-capable spacecraft before Star Citizen gets a release candidate.
Still may be released before gta6
Hmm, but I think Half-life 3 may come out first.
What about another Duke Nukem?
I’m here to kick ass and chew 5gum…
This has to be some psychology loophole they stumbled upon. It’s like religion or something.
It’s like religion or something.
Well yeah, people putting money to buy several ships (instead of only 45$ for the basic game package) are buying into a dream. The dream of the perfect space sim, a sim where you can be anything you want. That dream has been growing since Elite in 84 and the X-wing games in the 90. So yeah, kinda religion for the space sim nerds.
Im certain they will deliver, no idea when, but they will achieve it so that’s cool for future gamers. If earth still exists that will be awesome as I will probably be near retirement and will have a shit ton of time to play.
PS: I only own a medium ship that I bought from the kickstarter funding back in 2010-ish ? I wanted it to be my flying space home.
It’s coming soon! You’ll see! It will come riding on the clouds with fire. And the backers will meet it in the air, and it will take them to be with it in the stars forever.
It’s an experiment for the Duncan Princicle!
Why do people freak out so much about this 800million game when there are more than one 200 or 300million dollar games out there that are literally assets flim scams for crypto bros?
I think this just had a larger community and more of a “Play the alpha! It’s awesome!” userbase that’s persisted in defiance of any kind of common sense. Like, there’s something resembling a game in there, it’s just a buggy piece of shit.
The pump-and-dump crypto scams don’t tend to last ten months much less ten years. They’re vaporware from day one, so there’s no mediocre sandbox of broken hopes and dreams to play around in.
man im in the wrong business.
guys, i’m making a new game with samurais, lasers, pizza, and master chief might be in it who knows. i just need 500 million dollars and you can play it probably.
Best I can do is three fiddy.
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The Duke Nukem 4ever of the new generation
But Duke Nukem Forever was released. Star Citizen is more like Beyond Good & Evil 2.
DN4 was a joke until it got released, is my point.
I get your point but DN4 was also a joke after release. Which may also be your point lol
Unintentionally, but yes :D
DNF was only released after the original studio went bankrupt, has it’s IP and assets bought up, and the new owners spent 6 months cobbling together whatever was there to just push out the door to recoup some of the cost.
$800 million doesn’t even seem that high at this stage (I had assumed they broke a billion by now).
Whatever this ends up being when it’s all said and done is never going to justify the production costs. If you developed a helmet that could trigger the hardest orgasm your body can muster at the push of a button, it would not justify $800 million.
Idk I imagine that machine could bring in way more than 800M
I’ve got a helmet like that, only works on women though…
That’s your example for 800mil…?
Can we get elon to fund this? Might distract him from politics for a while and stop him breaking something else
Honestly not a bad idea. He could slap SpaceX on half the ships, and the timelines of star citizen releasing are about the same as SpaceX getting to Mars
It’ll release same day as gta6 and no one will notice, it’ll miss its marketing cycle and they’ll need another 500M to make up for bad timing
Roberts probably hasn’t finished taking a shit in his life. I just know he holds in a turd for later.
I think $800m may be enough to place it as the biggest scam in gaming industry history.
India launched a lunar probe for a lot less.
No release in sight? Squadron 42 is preparing for publishing and in polish stage, as mentioned in article
Oh for the 5th year in a row? Alright, I’ll believe that when I see it.
I better be able to see my past reflected in that shine!
Was only recently announced but sure
You cannot be serious right now.
Yea, don’t worry. Lemmy is just as infected with those who have shallow opinions based on no relevant insight into the topic at hand as reddit is.
I mean look at the comments. They likely don’t even know that it’s two seperate games not just one that’s being built.
Once SQ42 is out we will see how it good or bad it turns out and can then judge if the money was worth it.
It’s okay GTA 6 has been in development longer, at higher expense and has less to show for it
Having a couple people coming up with ideas for the game while the rest of the team works on a different game is not the same as being in full development that entire time, like Star citizen has
That is literally CIG, everyone worked on SQ42. Not star citizen. Only very recently were more than a handful of devs moved to star citizen now SQ42 is feature complete.
That’s not true at all. They’ve always been building them in parallel. Did they shift some of the devs to get the final push to finish SQ42? Recently? Yes. Was it the majority of the devs working on SC? No.
I backed the original Kickstarter in 2014. SQ42 has been “nearly ready” for years now. I’m not at all surprised SQ42 and Star Citizen are covered in suspicion and doubt, given how much time Roberts is willing to waste making sure people have to eat and drink and reworking ships and game mechanics, while getting sucked out of your ship when you warp and being unable to refuel/rearm remained problems for years. Hell I bet they still are.
The game was supposed to be something we could play on our own terms, not a wide open griefer fest like it is now.
I dunno I stopped waiting, I don’t care anymore.
Lower development costs and faster to develop than GTA 6 so far, with more to show for it. Don’t give up hope
Sure Jan
They said about 2016, too.
We might get gta 6 before star citizen.
I’m sure we will
Elder scrolls 6 even
Half-Life 3, maybe?
The scope of the game is a $3b project, i’ll be seriously impressed if they get it half done for 800m.
Wow graphic look sick. Is that luke skywalker?
I’ve never put any money in this game. I remember I feel like a decade+ ago they had that ship hanger demo that was the only thing available at the time. I think I installed that. Whatever. If people fund this game and it ends up solid someday I’ll enjoy it
