The american voters have really outdone themselves this time

  • IndescribablySad@threads.net
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    1093 months ago

    “You’ll never believe it, Mr Kennedy. According to our data, vaccines causes cancer”, he says, smiling. “Once we increased our vaccination rates, cancer became a major cause of death within 15 years. I suspect that far fewer people will die of cancer, if we simply roll our policies back

  • Chainweasel
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    803 months ago

    There’s no such thing as a “vaccine skeptic”.
    Skeptic implies that they could have their opinion swayed if presented with evidence. The fact that they’re still “skeptical” despite literal mountains of evidence shows that they only call themselves “skeptics” because it makes them sound reasonable, when in reality if they could have been swayed by reason they would have changed their minds a long time ago.

    • @Ledericas@lemm.ee
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      123 months ago

      they try to downplay anti-vaxxers, thats what they really are, this include vaccine hesitency.

    • Possibly linux
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      83 months ago

      Any paper showing Vaccines don’t cause Autism is immediately disregarded as “propaganda from the far left”

  • @MuskyMelon@lemmy.world
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    633 months ago

    They really should review dihydrogen monoxide which is continually pushed by doctors but has a 100% mortality rate! DO YOUR RESEARCH!

    • Yggstyle
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      233 months ago

      Goodness me. It’s so dangerous it eats away at untreated metal. How could they foist this dangerous mixture onto us. It’s worse than micro plastics. I heard estimates that claim it’s now found in every living American… and may even be now found in almost all of our food. Absolutely disgusting.

    • FuglyDuck
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      3 months ago

      This is why RFK only drinks methylated paint thinner.

      Well that and he confused the methyl-part with methamphetamine.

      Don’t do meth. Or methyl alcohol. Both are awful.

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        methylene blue to be exact, he has been seen in a video, of him using a large dropper of methylene blue on a flight into his drink. he bought into the unsubstantiated reports of it being useful.

          • @Ledericas@lemm.ee
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            his worms control his bodily functions, it kill all competition from his body to his brain. the worms replaced the part of his brained that his heroin destroyed.

    • @Nollij@sopuli.xyz
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      13 months ago

      Nah, that’s just a red herring, and completely discredited. The real problem is hydrogen hydroxide. Everywhere that you see dihydrogen monoxide, there’s also hydrogen hydroxide. That’s the real danger.

      (/S for people that don’t know the different chemical names)

  • @Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    423 months ago

    If the word “skeptic” in the title actually meant that, this would be a good thing. It’s good to be skeptic about everything until you’re shown evidence. The problem here is that those folks aren’t really skeptic.

    • @formulaBonk@lemm.ee
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      63 months ago

      Hard to accept a “skeptic” in a field with overwhelming evidence that he’s wrong. It means he either doesn’t or refuses to understand the current data which makes him just a dummy not a skeptic

    • Possibly linux
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      13 months ago

      People decide to believe something and then look for evidence

      Like or not that’s the human thing to do. Breaking out of that mindset is hard.

  • @misteloct@lemmy.world
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    393 months ago

    WaPo strikes again with a plausibly deniable disinformation title, using the word “skeptic” wrong on purpose. I expect nothing less from Bezos.

  • @Jollyllama@lemmy.world
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    323 months ago

    These people have co-opted the work “skeptic”.

    I grew up Orthodox and became skeptical of god’s role in my life, now I’m agnostic.

    My parents became “skeptical” of vaccines. Once they found their first antivax substack they are no longer “skeptical” but rather certain vaccines cause autism and covid vax causes heart attacks.

    I find it hilarious (sad) they stop being skeptical once they find “proof” of their suspicions and then claim to be skeptics.

    They of course have seen all the research supporting vaccines and deemed it insubmissable because it was funded by big pharma or the WHO (CHINA).

    The only science they believe is the shit pushed by their “independent” researchers (crunchy influencers).

    🤮

    • @prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      33 months ago

      Don’t worry, Republicans have been hard at work destroying our public education system so that people in the future won’t be burdened with seeing and understanding their parents’ hypocrisy for what it is.

  • @markovs_gun@lemmy.world
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    293 months ago

    I feel like using terms like “vaccine skeptic” for these morons is a major PR win for them. It makes it sound way more legitimate than it is. Fuck corporate media sanewashing everything going on politically right now.

  • Gordon Calhoun
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    283 months ago

    I’d just like to caveat that a slim majority of American voters outdid themselves to undo decades of past hard-won progress.

    • kersploosh
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      193 months ago

      A third of eligible voters didn’t vote. The remaining people who did vote were almost evenly split. So, in rough numbers, 1/3rd of American voters put us all in this mess.

      • Billiam
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        383 months ago

        No, 2/3rds.

        The third-ish that voted for Trump, and the third-ish that didn’t vote for Harris.

        In other words, the majority of Americans either wanted this government, or didn’t care if this was the government.

    • Baron Von J
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      73 months ago

      a slim majority

      Not even that. The majority of voters, 50.2%, voted for Harris or third party.

        • Baron Von J
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          13 months ago

          They didn’t technically vote for Trump. Which I don’t say to absolve them of blame, but this particular thread of comments was pedantry over how many people voted for Trump.

            • Yggstyle
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              33 months ago

              I wouldn’t exactly define this current situation as working, would you?

                • Yggstyle
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                  23 months ago

                  Absolutely nothing… hence the It needs to change bit.

                  Realistically it’s the same question I could pose you saying just play the game… What exactly does picking the “lesser of two evils” net us? A race to the bottom. It’s not ideal nor does it work. The most recent election is a perfect example of this.

          • Baron Von J
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            13 months ago

            The only pathways are direct voter ballot initiativesmin the states that have them (only 26 states do) and progressive candidates and voters flooding the Democratic primaries to take over the party.

            • @Jaysyn@lemmy.world
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              13 months ago

              voters flooding the Democratic primaries to take over the party.

              And this is how you have to do it in a two-party FPtP system.

              That’s exactly how the Tea Party turned the GOP into the mess it is now.

              • Baron Von J
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                13 months ago

                Yup. That at the Koch brothers pouring millions mostly into state and federal legislative races rather than focusing on the president.

  • @Helvetica@sh.itjust.works
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    263 months ago

    I feel like I should start wearing a mask again in stores and other crowds, because this administration is going to kill me if I wait for the experts.

    ps There are no experts anymore just these anti vaccine loony fuckshits.

    • @dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      143 months ago

      I never stopped. And I damn well won’t be anytime soon.

      A large enough proportion of the populace has deemed it their God Given Right to infect anyone and everyone under the doctrine of “It’s Just the Flu, Bro”.

      • Binette
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        33 months ago

        for real. During covid, I didn’t get sick once, and that was heavenly cause when I get sick, it runs for weeks and get really really bad. I thought that wearing masks when sick would be the norm now, but whatever

        • @dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          43 months ago

          I foolishly had dental work done in 2023. LONG overdue.

          The tech doing my x-rays had an n95, full face shield and gloves. The idiot dentist starts poking in my mouth with NO gloves and is completely unmasked.

          The 3 years of being hyper cautious, getting every damned booster and treating every stranger as a plague vector down the drain. Thankfully only a week of what felt like one of the worst bouts of influenza I’ve had.

          Still getting yearly boosters, still masking and still assuming that every one I run into in public is on a holy crusade to spread mega measles or the like.

    • @zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
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      23 months ago

      They fired all of the people working on the bird flu and put an anti-vaxxer in charge of public health. What could possibly go wrong?

    • @Ledericas@lemm.ee
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      13 months ago

      i actually dint stop, because interact with customers alot, and they are ALWAYS sick all the time. and they cough and sneeze without covering thier mouth or nose.

    • @AA5B@lemmy.world
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      53 months ago

      Of course. There are a larger number of vaccinated people who have used a trebuchet than non-vaccinated people, and trebuchets are a great way of helping pigs fly

  • @A_norny_mousse@feddit.org
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    123 months ago

    Mark Geier

    Is that the patient 0 of that autism claim? The one that was discredited decades ago (both the person and the claim)?

    The biggest problem with him was, he just couldn’t admit he had been wrong and continued to spout the bullshit, thus discovering a moderately profitable grift. And now his son is continuing it.

  • @MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml
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    123 months ago

    Someone please create a AI video of a debate with Trump about vaccines, where he gets dunked.

    If they don’t play fair, we don’t have to either.

    • Wren
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      63 months ago

      Right now, we can empirically accuse them of lying. They cannot do the same. The minute we start doing this, we lose that advantage. Lies dilute the truth.

      Fighting fire with fire isn’t always the best tactic.

      • @AlbertSpangler@lemmings.world
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        13 months ago

        They don’t have to Empirically accuse anyone of lying, they just accuse. Because they’re liars and have no interest in truth or accuracy.

        • Wren
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          13 months ago

          Right, but we do. And the moment we start lying about them, we start becoming like them.

    • @Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world
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      53 months ago

      Forget the serious debate videos—his supporters aren’t watching those, and even if they did, they wouldn’t care. You want to make a dent? You go after the ego.

      Picture this: an endless stream of totally “realistic” phone-recorded AI videos of Trump playing golf. He lines up the putt—misses. Tries again—air ball. It’s literally an inch away now—misses again. Doesn’t blink, just traps it in, smirks, walks off like he nailed it. Over and over.

      The key is subtlety. These can’t look staged or flashy—make them feel like someone’s nephew filmed it from the cart. Make it look like he’s genuinely terrible but thinks he’s crushing it.

      Then blast them everywhere. Flood the algorithm. Turn his “I’m the best at golf” schtick into a punchline.

      This is how you use AI to actually take Trump down—with a thousand tiny ego papercuts.