I guess I don’t play Mario then. It’s a pretty simple concept.
I got a Wii for Christmas years ago. Never used it much. The last Nintendo console I bought was a game cube. You can easily live without Nintendo. They’re definitely decent games. Just not for that price.
They do fill a “good for all ages” niche that not many other AAA games do nowadays. Which makes the exorbitant pricing especially strange.
You underestimate how many people literally cannot stop themselves from playing Mario. I’d hope it’s mostly children begging their parents, but I have a feeling there’s a decent amount of 30 year olds with disposable income and zero impulse control in there.
I’m going to try very hard not to be, but I’m definitely the type of person you’re describing. That Nintendo direct had me drooling at the new Mario kart and donkey Kong games, and nothing hits like a zelda. Super mario wonder was a delight.
I only hope I can emulate this system relatively quickly. I am not a man of strong willpower.
Don’t feel bad for liking things. Your post kinda bums me out. Don’t let all this negative hype impact what will make you happy. If you can afford it. Do it. If you can’t then yeah don’t, but we as people are allowed to enjoy things.
The Switch was the generation where I really started to have adult money, and while a lot of the games I got were lower-priced indie titles, I did get pretty much all of the big 1st party titles.
There’s a reasonable chance I get a Switch 2, but I’m not gonna be buying a lot of games over $70, and the ones I do will probably be when they go on sale for like, 10-15% off. I suspect I’ll be buying fewer games this generation, and I’m okay with that.
the ones I do will probably be when they go on sale for like, 10-15% off
Which is almost never.
It’s uncommon, absolutely. But I bought Super Mario Odyssey around the third time I got an alert that it was on sale, for $50 or so. This took a couple years, so it’s reasonably rare, but if the future looks like the past, it will happen
The fact that you have to have alerts to be able to get the games at a discount is pretty bad, but you’re doing it the right way!
I introduced mine to undertale and other stuff like cuphead, old school sonic games and SNES emulators. We dont care about latest Mario’s, but he does have odyssey.
Streamers.
Streamers and YouTubers are mostly who I blame for this. They are influencers who showcase the games and it makes their fans want to buy it.
I can’t count how many times I’ve read online that so many people refuse to buy some game, then I go on YouTube and see like 5 YouTubers playing it day one, because they (or maybe even a fan) bought it.
me! I’m that guy pre ordering the switch as soon as I can lol
Its much better than that. There’s plenty of Mario content to emulate.
Imagine going back to exclusivity with gaming consoles. PCs, and by extension, Steam won the console wars, and Nintendo is just trying its damnest to hold on to the last gasp of gaming exclusivity.
Yeah, Switch 1 was a nice break from playing games on my PC.
Except it’s totally not. Maybe the only 100% legal in every single country way, but not the only way by half. Fuck Nintendo. Fuck $80+ for a game. And fuck the switch 2.
What other legal way is there that doesn’t require you to pay full price for the game?
Buying it used? That used to be the norm. Or getting it at the library for free.
I believe Nintendo (and other industry leaders) are going to find out that their old games are the going to be the competition to their new games. If it’s too expensive and the old games are fun…there’s enough of a backlog for people to play.
That and indies.
In the case of them rereleasing old games without doing a remaster, in Canada at least, it is legal to have a digital back up for any game you own, and running it in an emulator is legal.
(Edit: I’m implying here that classic games are $80 on the Nintendo store, they are not. Still legal to have digital backups of modern games, still legal to emulate them as long as you own a physical copy.)
But then you still have to buy the game.
Sure, but it wouldn’t be $80 for most of them. (Edit: classic games on the Nintendo store are not $80, statement retracted. The general sentiment stands.)
Game deals is in New Westminster. Not necessarily great prices, but you can get Super Mario Cart for $60. And that’s a proper reseller, definitely get a better deal for a loose cart online…it doesn’t even have to be working. Get a better deal on one that isn’t functional, physical media degradation is one of the reasons why you’re able to keep digital copies.
I thought we were talking about Switch 2 games?
You think they’re going to sell repackaged SNES and N64 games for less than that?(Edit: incorrect, they are in fact less than $80) How bout switch 1 games? Those are “modern” so significantly cheaper, still legal to have a backup, still legal to emulate…and will be run in an emulator on the switch 2, no native backwards compatibility.
As for switch 2 games…just waiting for a while getting them 2nd hand means they’ll be cheaper, if you can actually get a hardcopy, and all the things I just said still apply…They do not sell SNES and N64 games for $80, no. You know those are on the NSO app already, right?
Look, if you wanna be mad that Mario Kart World is $80, that’s fair to be mad at. But you don’t gotta make up misinformation.
Being in receipt of a gift.
But yes, that pricing is bullshit.
Fuck everyone! You cool Gabe.
If Mario is 100x more expensive than it needs to be, and there are millions of games that are just as good for a dime, you don’t buy Mario.
Gamers, be it on console or PC, are dumb. Time has shown this over and over again. Horse armour, overpriced micro transactions, golden cage launchers, games as a service, the list goes on.
There will always be people who buy overpriced stuff or don’t think about what will be in ten years.
Yeah, just prepare for 100 dollar games across the board WITH all of the shitty monetization at this point, gamers are going to buy their circus, consequences be damned.
I doubt it. Maybe Grand Theft Auto and Mario Kart can get away with charging more, but a lot of games asking $70 aren’t finding many customers willing to pay that price right now.
Not to mention that other publishers will be watching this closely. If Nintendo gets away with it they will make this the new normal.
No offence to folks who like Mario games, but I don’t personally feel good playing them. They have a working class protagonist who works to maintain monarchic status quo (fighting evil kingdom to defend another kingdom). Also the games encourage violence toward turtles. Not cool in my books.
Anyway, jokes aside, I’m not getting a Switch 2 anytime soon, will probably get a Steam Deck before that.
Everyone knows Mario is cool as f–k. But who knows what he’s thinking? Who knows why he crushes turtles? And why do we think about him as fondly as we think of the mystical (nonexistent?) Dr Pepper? Perchance.
You can’t just say “perchance.”
Interested too see how piracy works for the switch 2. I will not buy one, as much as I enjoy Nintendo’s games I cannot stand their software experience (UI, shovelware) or their eco system…how many peripherals do you need!?
I will buy a Switch 2 for however much it costs and when Nintendo first party titles start costing a whole week of work plus overtime I will still buy them. I will take out a mortgage for the eventual $49,999.99 console and $4,999.99 games. I will sell individual organs directly to Nintendo for whatever they want. I will singlehandedly commit genocide with my bare hands for Nintendo. I will gladly die for Nintendo. I live to serve my angel of salvation.
Sounds like someone thinks there is only one choice, buy or don’t.
🏴☠️Harhar! 🏴☠️
And he’s right. Switch 2 and its $80 games will not only sell like hot cakes, it will set the standard for AAA publishers going forward. I fully expect to see $100 base games as standard before the end of the next generational cycle, and they’ll still have microtransactions and endless special editions.
And I’ll continue to not buy them and support indie developers instead.
Me too. I’ve put more hours into Balatro and Tape To Tape than I care to admit…
Tape to tape? Oh that’s new to me… Thanks friend
If you enjoy hockey and roguelites, it’s the game for you.
Update: it’s a great game. I’m not even a huge hockey fan, but it sucked me right in.
Lmao rougelite hockey. Eventually there will be a rougelite for everything 😂
I’ll admit that I wasn’t sure about it at first and it was kind of an impulse buy, but I was hooked after my first couple of runs. Great game for the Steam Deck too.
Yup. Gamers, PC, console, mobile, all want their circus to escape reality, regardless of the cost short or long term.
I mean I keep hoping that gamers would have an epiphany and push back on these anti-consumer practices but I’ve seen nothing in the past twenty years, only desperate games defending being gouged.
The game market crashed before. It can do so again.
And I will bail to PC as my main way of playing games. I know I’m going to have to eventually, the way the industry is going.
Yeah, no. It is not the only place to play Mario. There’s emulation and Piracy. I’m quite certain skilled people will try to hack the Switch 2 and sooner or later there will be a Switch 2 emulation (although might take a while). €80-90 euro for one single game is nuts.
The only reason I would purchase a Switch 2 is when it is capable of being hacked.
10 year old mario kart 8 is still like 70 bucks with the dlc. Why are people so shocked?
Don’t forget the other obvious option: we don’t have to play mario. Also, there’s a used game market with a ton of older games and Nintendo doesn’t get a cent from that anymore.
uh I fuckin wish I could play mario 64, sunshine, or galaxy on my current generation switch
You can…
Dat’s da joke.
/r/whoosh for me then 😅🤣
me too, but it’s about sailing the seven seas right?
I wasnt talking about that. Those games were released on switch in a bundle lol
However that was a limited time bundle which they no longer sell. Cause fucking smarts.
https://www.nintendo.com/en-gb/Games/Nintendo-Switch-games/Super-Mario-3D-All-Stars-1832369.html
exactly this
Oh wait I can…
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Not that prices will be much better for long
Won’t they, though? Even disregarding the option of piracy, while new games will be $70 or $80 or whatever at launch, they go down eventually and Steam pricing has always been better than console.
You can play Mario on old dumb phones using J2ME emulators.
I can’t imagine trying to play games designed for controllers on a touch screen.
J2ME are old dumb non-touchscreen phones. My last one was Sony Ericsson j108i. And just now reading the Wikipedia entry, it was actually the last non-smartphone phone by Sony Ericsson! Nice.
Damn, the nostalgia is real. And the design still looks much better than smartphones which look pretty much all the same. Back then, phones had personality.
The Sony Ericsson phones in particular had very advanced J2ME support that I didn’t see that much difference between that and my first smartphone (Nokia C5-03). Not that there weren’t differences, the smartphone was definitely more advanced, but it wasn’t that huge of a leap.
nope. they might be counting dumptruckloads of cash, but $0.00 of it will have come from me
Your friendly reminder that Half Life was $49 in 1998, which is roughly $100 today.
Your friendly reminder that gaming back in 1998 was still not selling millions of copies as compared to now and revenue has for gaming has been rising significantly since.
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/video-game-industry-revenues-by-platform/
Your friendly reminder that there were less than 1/10th of the people buying video games back then than there are now.
Also, Half-Life didn’t have a BattlePass, Time Savers, and other microtransactions.
Neither does Mario.
Cool, now do the cost of everything else and compare then to now and you might have some idea of why $80 for a video game is a bitter pill to swallow.
Friendly reminder that games from 1998 were just games and didn’t have endless predatory mechanics designed to cripple the game in some way to extract money from you after you bought them too.
