The thing is that it took a powerful coalition of countries to actively wage war against him for years for that to happen. I am not seeing anything similar happening here.

This is all on Americans themselves.

But please without dragging the whole world into war with millions killed

True. People tend to forget the settler colonialist aspect of the nazi ideology

Well the important thing is that you found a way to blame her instead of the actual people doing the actual things.

Boy am I glad that some voters left their brains at home because their little feelings got hurt by Kamala. Makes me feel real good about that outcome knowing that they showed Kamala who’s boss! /s 🤮

The same broad coalition you didn’t join by not voting for kamala? How many millions of people signed up for your mutual aid fund?

You don’t represent the masses, you just think you do.

Agreed 100% I work around people that are Ride Or Die Trump supporters, and they are fully on board with crashing everything so as long as they get to own the Libs.

nothing is more damaging to a society than the willfully ignorant.

Even if they do know, they almost certainly are buying into the ‘he’s a criminal and deserves to be deported’ bit.

they are constantly distracted with outrage, so they dont know the actual things are going on.

Tbf, we’ve spent the last 8+ years making sure echo chambers become the name of the game and completely breaking down discourse from “across the aisle” so to speak to the degree where we mostly don’t interact with them, and they mostly don’t interact with us. We’ve set it up like this seemingly intentionally, if all they do is watch fox and truth social and neither of those places are talking about it (tbf I’m kinda with you on this, idk if they are talking about it because I’m not there either, so), how can we expect them to have heard about it?

Like sure we’re all aware of it here, where they aren’t, but have they heard of it where they are? And how do we fix it, go there ourselves and tell them? Might be too late, tbh.

I have ran into them and most didn’t even know the guy they sent to El Salvador was fully legal

I am sorry for the rest, but there’s nothing I can do for them except saying migration also works the other way.

I think the takeaway for me is that there is a decent % of humanity in every nation that see the world differently. We can only see what our mind is capable of.

I don’t think the US is the oldest democracy as San Marino has been around for a long ass time.

When exactly you consider San Marino an Independent entity could be debated but def older than the US.

To add to what you’re saying, the Weimar republic was not a really a democracy when Hitler got in power; it was already ruled by decree, with a reactionary minority (Hindenburg, Papen, Schleicher and al) aiming to ignore parliament and preserve the nobility.

In early 1933 a German observer might have hoped the authoritarian trend was just a temporary thing and the presidential clique would have to bend to the parliament eventually, since they were continually losing support.

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But if he sends a citizen we will totally do something about it then, right?

I actually misread the meme

Even criminals and illegal aliens are granted protection under the constitution too. Citizen or not, in the eyes of the law, they have the same (ignored) rights.

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Nevertheless, I misread the meme which never said he was a US citizen, so I was talking out of my ass.

Yeh, use the wording: Legal Resident

Germans in 1941: 🙈 well “prisons aren’t supposed to be fun”, these grainy “photos don’t really show anything.” “There are only 241 released deaths in the camps, I’m sure everything is completely fine there”

I see what appears to be a puddle of blood.

Why would they hide it? Who’s going to do anything about it?

https://www.youtube.com/feed/library

The report says that 153 people died in custody after being arrested under Bukele’s year-long crusade against gangs, including 47 this year, according to the new investigation.

Those are just the “documented” deaths.

We know that they shave their heads, number them, and make them not show their faces and treat them very similarly to another such camp

They only feed the inmates Rice, beans, a couple of veggies, etc… And yet there is a meat pile next to a small building with red stains all around it and red stained drag marks. even though they don’t use meat.

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Even if I agreed with the idea of non-reform prisons, there have been zero trials held to prove they were actually criminals. We aren’t sending convicted rapists to the desert, we’re sending people to a foreign prison, based on nothing but allegations.

The way this works is they make you feel so afraid of criminals that you want someone cruel in power to protect you from them.

Problem is they need to keep you afraid and keep on being cruel to maintain power. So they will constantly be adding groups of people to the list. The eventual outcome is you may be added to the list and sent to a gulag. But maybe if you’re lucky you won’t and you merely live in fear that your government will execute it’s cruelty on you if you ever speak out.

Living in a system dominated by fear and cruelty isn’t how I want to live. Why do you want to live that way?

I vote we send you first.

And when a government gets to decide who goes and who doesn’t without due process….

What then?

You don’t seem to have up to date knowledge, period.

because torturing people is evil and pointless.
apparently your problem is sexual offenses, which is odd because i’d much rather be raped then murdered or tortured….
at any rate:
how many innocent people are convicted wrongly?
(answer: a lot, but an unknowable amount… false confession is a big thing too).
how many people accused of rape would allow themselves to be arrested without fighting to the death?
(answer: none of them).
how many rapists would just go ahead and murder their victim, since the consequences of murder and rape are the same, and might as well eliminate the witness?
(all of them, now you’ve increased murder and decreased rape convictions).
how many of these people you want to torture to death in some foreign desert are just pure evil and beyond and rehabilitation or redemption?
(most of them are not pure psychopaths, but were raised in violent environments… everyone has potential to grow and change, even a rapist or pedophile… there are many such stories of people finding morality, having remorse, and spending the rest of their lives trying to improve the world).
what about recidivism? don’t all of these violent people keep reoffending?
(an incredibly complex problem, but prisons tend to not rehabilitate and just end up criminal college, making people worse, and loss of job opportunities on the outside makes crime more likely than before they went in…).
many many many societies have tried killing criminals, cutting off hands, branding them, etc… it doesn’t reduce crime or eliminate a crime gene, it makes criminals much much worse….
if i’m going to get my hands cut off for stealing bread but i’ll starve to death if i don’t get it, i will still steal it and kill anyone that tries to catch me….
tl;dr if you treat humans like animals, you will make them act more like animals….

and even discounting aaaalll of that, why is it better to ship them to another country to imprison them? we have prisons here….
the one and ONLY reason to do that is to deny them their human rights, constitutional rights, and ability to appeal….

The problem with the prison system here in the U.S. is that in a majority of states the counties’ budget relies on income from maxed out prisons. It’s a for-profit system, but there are very few private prisons compared to public prisons. The private prisons are even MORE incentivized to max out their population.

I don’t like the idea of non-reform prisons because they don’t even give someone a chance to try to recognize what they did was wrong and be able to change themselves in a meaningful way. Not to say that it happens in “reform” prisons here, but it’s at least a chance.

The U.S. wouldn’t have such a huge prison population if it wasn’t essentially for-profit and if the “War on Drugs” didn’t happen, among other things.

But the issue right now isn’t even what you’re talking about. The U.S. is grabbing “illegal immigrants” off the street regardless of immigration status now and sending them to a prison in El Salvador. They are trying to declare all of these people “dead” in the Social Security “Death Master File” which essentially locks these people out of any bank accounts, credit, jobs, etc so they self-deport before being disappeared.

Once they have all “illegal” immigrants out of the country, then they will focus on what Elon Musk calls “parasites”: people on disability or any kind of government assistance because these people (including myself) are seen as a drain on the federal government and since Trump can’t stop the funding to these agencies he’s going through the back door and looking for “fraud” but recognize that “mistakes will be made” thus causing all kinds of problems for legal U.S. citizens.

Then when he’s done with them, he’ll move on to people who don’t identify with the gender they were born as. Technically he’s already making their lives hell by doing things like requiring all government documents to show the gender a person was born as, not what they identify as, regardless if any transitions were made or not. For those who have already transitioned they are kinda of in limbo now because their documentation states something that they essentially aren’t.

Scrotum

Because they only protect the millionaires