Why would I use such a browser?
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The amount of folks I see use Opera GX “gaming browser” because some influencer said so…
I’m still shocked at how many seemingly tech-literate people use and defend Brave because of influencers.
An influencer’s review only makes me wary of a product and makes me question their motives.
But I guess others don’t see it that way, or they wouldn’t be doing it.
“Because it really gets you, y’know?”
They’ve partnered with Motorla and probably Samsung to have it pre-installed. And a lot of people stick to the default one.
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I appreciate him saying it upfront. Makes it easy to stay away from all of their products.
Srinivas believes that Perplexity’s browser users will be fine with such tracking because the ads should be more relevant to them.
Believes it, or is just spinning it that way?
You could show me an ad for exactly what I want in that moment and I’d immediately not want it any more.
Enough already.
You could show me an ad for exactly what I want in that moment and I’d immediately not want it any more.
Depends, if it is an ad for an orbital laser that targets marketing executives it might work on me.
You could show me an ad for exactly what I want in that moment and I’d immediately not want it any more.
proceeds to show something you don’t want at all
Exactly!
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Beep boop, this is your browser speaking. You have stated that you need a browser that spies on you more one (1) times.
6?
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But then users use it anyway for some reason. Many people care so little.
Most people are unintelligent sacks of meat, not much critical thought about what they do runs through their minds.
It is legislation’s work.
Attention is invisible until you take the time to acknowledge it. People will never treat it as a resource of the same value as these companies, because they don’t even recognize it as something being taken away from them (despite that it is actually the most precious resource - our literal lives), and that disparity will always be profitable.
Because there is legal precedent that says shareholders come first.
You can blame Dodge for this. Yes, that Dodge.
Too bad, that long-term users still kind of decide the fate of the company (as shareholders at some point realize that their share probably is not worth it).
I’m really keen to see when this happens to Tesla, I’m thinking about shorting the stock, it’s so vastly overvalued, and there’s strong competition and sales are crashing everywhere (because of too much Nazi)
Too bad, that long-term users still kind of decide the fate of the company (as shareholders at some point realize that their share probably is not worth it).
Yeah, that’s really the kicker, isn’t it? Legally beholden to the shareholders who demand short term profits forever and ever, risking the loss of long-term customers.
It’s a guaranteed death.
So to ensure that a company is more likely to be customer focused, rather than shareholder focused, it’s likely a good idea to only go for companies not listed on the american stock exchanges?
I mean, that’s my take. Also why you hear a lot of moaning and groaning from enthusiasts when a company who makes well-loved products decides to go public. Enshittification always occurs.
Yup. Same goes for being employed - if they’re publicly traded they’ll almost certainly treat their staff like absolute garbage.
Oh, look, the reason Dodge reliability is garbage.
Real shocker, right? 😂
That’s like a cigarette brand marketing themselves as the most cancer-causing.
Before even reading the article, I’m thinking they’re maybe selling it as a good thing along the lines of “do you hate to see those ads you don’t care about? Taking space on your apps and pages? What if there was a way to make them actually useful! Make them feel like content, just for you!”
I feel like I have to point out that this is horrific either way
Edit: I actually talked about this quickly with a few almost tech-illiterate friends and they were honestly excited about that at first, when I didn’t preface it with my reasoned disdain for it or the privacy implications… so despite the way we here react to it, I’m almost sure this will sell amazingly.
This is really good information, now I know to avoid their browser like the plague.
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You grossly underestimate how much some people truly love the idea of highly personalized ads. People who believe they are the best possible outcome and cannot fathom why anyone would have any problem with them at all. That’s who you are asking to dogfood this product, and they would and would find no issues with it.
Where is the hacktivism when you need it? These companies need to be gutted from the inside out.
Begin, the AI wars have.
In other news, Perplexity has signed a deal with Motorola to have the browser preinstalled on their phones.
Thx, for the heads up. The only reason I’m not typing this on a motorola g85 is because I got distracted when I was ordering it. Now I’ve got to search for a different brand.
I think I read somewhere they want to buy Chrome from Google if they are forced to sell. So not many changes, just switching owners who ultimately do the same thing.
i’m not a Chrome user, so screw both google and perplexity.
OpenAI also wants to buy Chrome.
And Yahoo, lol
And people would voluntarily use this browser …why?
Weirder things have happened. Like people using Brave voluntarily.
I’m out of the loop, what’s wrong with Brave?
It’s a great browser especially if you go through the settings and disable the things you don’t need, but the people here don’t like it because the CEO donated $1000 to anti gay marriage bill in 2008. There were some other controversies like injecting brave’s referral codes on crypto exchanges if you were signing up for an account and allowing bat donations to creators that didn’t sign up for it but all of that has been remedied.
You make it sound like the CEO is a changed man. He’s a shitbag through and through.
Idk much about the CEO, the only reason why I mentioned him was to highlight that imo when it comes to brave people on lemmy judge the person not the product, and the product is good. I see no reason to dismiss it just because 1 guy (who probably haven’t even touched it) out of 100s of employees did something that doesn’t align with my morals. As far as I know brave makes money from it’s ad program, bat value and other non browser services; VPN and premium versions of its search, llm, and talk. It doesn’t have “the firefox deal” so as long as you disable brave ads and don’t directly give them money there is no ethical conundrum regarding supporting a bad person.
Um, should I stop using Brave?
use librewolf if you want privacy. idk much abt brave but i do know that their ceo is super homophobic, and ive heard that brave sometimes changes the referral links you select to make them money
Only if you are going tor only. Im no expert but imo there is no better general purpose browser right now, both in terms of usability and privacy. Default firefox is a joke, librewolf is decent but it’s fingerprint protection relies on blending in which is difficult to achieve with it’s small userbase or if you have a lot of extensions and it’s identity separation is done manually through containers while brave uses randomization for fingerprinting, that doesn’t have this issue and it does site containerization between all tabs automatically. Ungoogled chromium is just brave without all the privacy benefits, mullvad browser is just tor browser without tor, which might be useful in some cases if you are using multiple browsers but I wouldn’t main it , and it has the same problems as librewolf. Opera is Chinese spyware, Vivaldi is whole ass operating system with a browser functionality, everything else is dead or not ready or not any better so yeah… I’ll be sticking with brave until something better comes along. If someone here knows a better alternative please let me know in the comment.
Ungoogled chromium is just brave without all the privacy benefits, mullvad browser is just tor browser without tor, which might be useful in some cases if you are using multiple browsers but I wouldn’t main it , and it has the same problems as librewolf
Yes, librewolf is un-mozillad firefox but it also turns on many privacy features by default. Many sites need exceptions to work properly which takes a little getting used to. After using FF for decades librewolf was an easy switch.
tor is crazy, like you cant use half the internet with it - how do you sign into stuff while remaining anonymus? its good for hiding browsing history from the world, but other than that i don think its the best. iIuse librewolf and it seems to work well, i might switch in the future to something else but im fine with this.
I use it for the encryption and IP hiding just to make casual surveillance more difficult, more than trying to be 100% anonymous. If I can’t use a site with Tor, I’ll add an exception for it if it’s something I really need. Otherwise, I find an alternative for whatever I was trying to do, and I don’t really care.
because they want ads that serve them things they want I imagine. EDIT: if ur downvoting me, say why. some people will see this as a feature
Wow! I’ve always wanted a browser that would track everything about me! /s
Gotta get me some of that.
Do all these dickheads go to a school to learn the same specific hand gestures?
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These fuckers are just so delusional and out of touch with reality. Personalized ads my ass. We’ve been promised those for decades but pretty much all the ads I see on YouTube are from major retail chains with precisely zero relevance to me. They will show the ads of whoever pays for them. Your personal preferences are only relevant when it comes to targeting you with political propaganda.
I don’t fucking want personalized ads no matter how relevant they are to me. I only have so much money to buy stupid materialistic bullshit and once that’s gone all an ad can do is make me want something I can’t have. Ads are just trying to make you discontent.
They just want you to spend more money in a failed attempt to be happier adding complexity to my life when I’d rather just be content with simplicity. And they work really fucking well on my wife. I automatically distrust anything someone is paying money to show me.
As a Lemmy user, I’m betting you do things differently than most people in general.
My friends and teenage children get very obviously targeted ads in the crap they do. I think maybe we are more discrete or something?
