Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich reiterates call for ‘hundreds of thousands’ of Palestinians to be forcibly displaced from Gaza
why stop there?
I think Israel will not stop the war until its forced to do so.
Yeah, they’re still working on their final solution to this.
Probably provoke every neighbor until it’s a big active conflict in the entire region and then say they’re the only one capable of “maintaining peace” aka kill everybody so better start sending weapons.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Solution
I believe their comment was in reference to this.
So basically, yes. Kill everyone they can.
That’s a bingo.
Israel already won against their neighbors and Iran in this war.
The main impediment to Israeli military operations are morale and manpower of the soldiers. Reservists aren’t showing up as they used to. They are tired, some opposed to the war.
The reservists serving had their lives on hold and their businesses fail. It’s not sustainable. It’s impacting the economy as well.
The IDF is overextended or will be soon. It’s a people‘s army with everyone serving. Refusal to serve has forced political change before.
Netanyahu isn’t secure in his power either. If the Shin Bet and army don’t agree with his policies, a government crisis is possible. Elections are expected over the next year as well.
Rome conquered the world in a war of ‘self defense’.
Cant wait to see the response of the “its just against the terrorists” crowd
Israeliz are the terrorists with nukes in the area, it’s uncanny how they keep flinging accusations and throwing American weaponry at everyone that doesn’t like their land grabs
And blackmailing germany :(
and thier use of AIPAC to fund politicians and donors in the states, have largely quashed university protests agains tthem.
Smotrich is a horrible person. He and Ben Gvir want ethnic cleansing.
Easier to list who doesn’t want ethic cleansing with those in power
Wouldn’t even have a list. The one anti-zionist in the Knesset, Over Cassif, has been repeatedly suspended. Not that one voice in a sea of genocidal voices is any real power to begin with, of course
Just openly saying you want genocide. As you do.
Always have been.
yep. Its been the same war for the last ~80 years.
“We should prepare to go over to the offensive. Our aim is to smash Lebanon, Trans-Jordan, and Syria. The weak point is Lebanon, for the Moslem regime is artificial and easy for us to undermine. We shall establish a Christian state there, and then we will smash the Arab Legion, eliminate Trans-Jordan; Syria will fall to us. We then bomb and move on and take Port Said, Alexandria and Sinai.” David Ben-Gurion May 1948, to the General Staff. From Ben-Gurion, a Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1978.
“It’s not a matter of maintaining the status quo. We have to create a dynamic state, oriented towards expansion.” –Ben Gurion
Partition: “after the formation of a large army in the wake of the establishment of the state, we will abolish partition and expand to the whole of Palestine “ — Ben Gurion, p.22 “The Birth of Israel, 1987” Simha Flapan.
On the 6th of February 1948, during a Mapai Party Council, Ben-Gurion responded to a remark from a member of the audience that “we have no land there” [in the hills and mountains west of Jerusalem] by saying: “The war will give us the land. The concepts of “ours” and “not ours” are peace concepts, only, and in war they lose their whole meaning” (Ben-Gurion, War Diary, Vol. 1, entry dated 6 February 1948. p.211)
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I’m Jewish and I don’t get it either, every Jew I see falling for this fascist rhetoric horrifies and disgusts me
I really don’t have a side politically. I just don’t understand.
you should really have a side by now.
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I refuse to take anyone’s side that murders innocent people. Children should NEVER be victims of political wars. When politicians that make these decisions put their own children in the line of fire, then tell me “I should really take a side”.
So you should really have a side by now.
Focus in, this the action of a handful of powerful and violent people, not the act of a whole nation with a subjugated past.
The people enacting these atrocities are just as much monsters and the people who oppressed their ancestors.
But the nation isn’t stopping him. He’s been voted in how many times. It isn’t like the people have no blame.
I’ve seen plenty of anti-government protests from Israelis that do not approve
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Sure, the decisions are made, the policies enacted, by those at the top — but there is no widespread repudiation of their actions by the citizenry at large, either.
Hurt people hurt people.
So is this an argument for Hamas or Israel.
No.
Zionism predates the holocaus and modern fascism.
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It isn’t a defense at all. You said you didn’t understand. Abused people (or peoples) becoming abusive in turn is a common process, and that phrase is commonly used in such a way that searching on it will reveal many studies of the process, and what has been tried (successfully and unsuccessfully) to short-circuit it.
Understanding is not absolution, though. You can both see how the genocide of Jews led to fears, politics, and colonial interventions that contributed to Israel’s genocide of Palestinians, and also condemn that genocide and those perpetrating it (which I absolutely do). But not understanding the motivations makes any problem easier to effectively resist or solve, as you can use that knowledge to determine where and how to apply pressure and create a lasting rather than a temporary change.
How can you see this genocide unfolding, ethnic cleansing at a minimum of you’re scared if using the G word, and still say “Well, I don’t really want to take a side here”
This kind of rhetoric enables these war crimes. You’ve outlined yourself what Israel is doing, and they’re going to continue because the western governments aren’t doing anything real about it.
The least we can do as individuals is call them out on their bullshit and remind others around us that the genocide they’re committing is entirely fucked up and unjustifiable.
did horrible things to their children (especially twins),
No they only did that to gypsies.
My guess is that they believe leaving the Hamas alive is equivalent to allowing their territory be attacked again in the future. They want this war to be The Last One™ so thay don’t have to further spend military resourses in the future doing the same thing again.
A yes, a final solution. Nazis love those, and most nazis were indeed zionists.
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This is about colonialism not religion
OMG they’re just as horrible as the rest of humanity. Who would have thought.
Rest of humanity? Which other country successfully carried out a genocide recently?
I think y’all are reading too much into a knee-jerk comment from Auli… The point is that Jewish people, also being people, are unfortunately capable of just as much hate and devastation as any others.
“Greater Israel” is not just about murdering palestinians, but more generally stealing all of the middle east.
https://mepei.com/greater-israel-an-ongoing-expansion-plan-for-the-middle-east-and-north-africa/
Fascists gonna fash.
It wil not stop war at all, because Bibi needs wartome mandate to stay out of jail
Sounds familiar. No wonder the Americans love Israel, they’re basically carbon copies of eachother. What America did to the Native Americans, the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians. Push 'em out, keep pushing until they get violent, use the violence as an excuse to keep pushing, rinse and repeat until they’re all dead.
I was thinking the other day, and this is a bit off topic but:
Can you imagine what the colonists and “America” would have done to the indigenous people if they had the same tools as the Nazis?
America, Hitler’s little poster child.
Not gonna lie. The analogy of native americans vs palestinians doesnt click for me. There were jews christians muslims living in relative peace before the plan of an israel was shoved down people throats in the region. This wasnt a new big island discovered by accident.
I would agree though that human life is equally important and displacing humans forcefully is always a terrible crime if this is what the analogy implies.
I’m referring more to the behaviour of the Israelis mirroring the behaviour of the colonists. Deliberately pushing out the natives, leading to the natives fighting back, leading to the colonists using overwhelming force in ‘self defence’, leading to more colonists pushing out the natives.
Take the settlements in the West Bank for example. The settlers show up, build their houses, kick out the local Palestinians and treat them like shit. The Palestinians retaliate, so the settlers call in the IDF to kill the Palestinians. The US colonists did the exact same thing, and even went to war with Britain (at least partially) because Britain demanded that they not push west of the Appalachians because it was (to the British), native territory. Granted Spain had also stolen a load of land to the west, effectively sandwiching the natives between two colonial powers, but Britain had just got out of the Seven Years War (instigated by the colonists) and wasn’t keen to get back into one.
Pretty sure they mean ‘formatted’
I think it’s
funnydarkly humorous but read the room, dude.Tbh the real-world cruelty overcomes any joke. There’s nothing humorous about wanting to wipe millions of people off the face of the Earth just because someone doesn’t want them there. Fuck the Israeli government. Besides, the room was empty when I commented.
Oof…
Not bad, but this is the sort of crass dark humor I would expect late on a Friday night after at least five beers with my friends.
The mean genocided.
Oh fuck off.
Time and place.
Time to nuke Israel.
What’s their beef with Syria still?
Well, see, Syria has land they want and people they don’t.
They don’t own it yet
Their beef is that Syria is actually Israel, just like Palestine, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt, etc.
Thanks, I appreciate the sources.
Syria is next.
Lebensraum
Until some military rolls up on the border and demands at gunpoint that Israel stop starving, murdering and stealing from people they dont like, the Israelis will keep doing it. They want Syria, Lebanan, Jordan, and Egypt after they finish off the west bank and Gaza.
“We didn’t bomb these people out of their homes only to have them return.”
—Israel
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What a terrible reply to get blocked over
