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Yeah it’s definitely the bots and not the fashy admins that drove me away from reddit.
I mean the bots don’t help. The sheer number of obviously AI subreddits and response farms is crazy. There’s like 6 prominent “Am I the Assholes”, a bunch of text message “screenshot” subreddits which have always been easy to fake, and a bunch of “explain the joke” ones too. I stop reading halfway through most text posts and comments because it’s obviously AI
the number of the explain the joke threads on the all page is ridiculous.
I made a lemmy post about it but I theorize they’re crowdsourced AI training. Post something, post a couple of separate AI interpretations of it, then analyze the highest up voted AI and “organic” responses, and feed that back into the model. Rinse/repeat
That’s fair, it just seems like that if they’re going down the list of problems looking for things they can do to make reddit a better place, it doesn’t make sense to not start at the top.
“Better for who?” is the question you need to ask yourself, because it’s absolutely not the users anymore.
Yep, entirely fair. S’why I left.
I got banned from reddit for a few days once because I posted something similar. Was told I was threatening violence. Lol
Like a war on terrorism, that then fights domestic terrorists, that then protects Tesla; any new power will inevitably be abused. Snowden taught us that a long time ago.
Violence for the sake of violence is not the same as violence to stop violence. Everyone knows killing an abusive parent is morally grey whereas killing an innocent child is absolutely wrong.
I recently got a comment removed on the Fed because a mod misunderstood my comment. They thought that someone who maliciously harms the innocent is themselves innocent, therefore invalidating my ideal. My bet is they didn’t know what malice means, or they genuinely think that hurting people with no provocation doesn’t make you a bad person.
Por que, no los dos?
I mean it’s definitely both, but the fashy admins were the last straw.
What and destroy 90% of their traffic?!?
“That’s a bold move, Cotton. Let’s see if it pays off for ’em.”
AI bots.
Not the rest of them.
This has nothing to do with bots. Verification comes with more info provided on your part, which they will sell.
I got ecchi dolls (China knockoff, cheaper but decent) from a site called OtakuCrate once, they’ve emailed me to confirm that the R18 loot is back under new US regulations, which means future orders just require your legal identification. I live in Europe, so there’s no damn way I’m conforming to any privacy-invasive law, and I’m also not stupid.
It can be both. Reddit has a history of fabricating conversations. The way they sell advertising implies a certain level of engagement from their user base which can lead to bots pushing products in the form of reviews or by mention.
I think it’s worth noting that Reddit, at one time, did have third party bot protection; however, it only protected their advertising. I can only imagine what the rest of their traffic looks like, but I would not be surprised if they were using bots of their own.
Like you said, they can make some money selling your information but they can also control the narrative how they choose.
And they’ll be able to hand over to the government on demand when you say something the government doesn’t like. They started all this during the previous administration, when the government were pressuring all social media companies to push their agenda and censor things they didn’t like. X changed course, Facebook has now changed course, but Reddit is staying the course and will do whatever the government of the day tells them to.
Like “closing the gate after the sheep already escaped”, but in reverse?
like: Closed the gate after the wolf got in?
Too little, too late
Unauthorized AI bots
100%. Reddit loves bots that they control, like the ones that go back and constantly re-post years old top rated, traffic driving content, complete with a replica of the entire comment section posted by hundreds/thousands of bots, because they can use it to do their bidding in pushing agendas and/or driving traffic/engagement.
Am I overreacting aita and all of those question answer subs are all bots.
It wouldn’t surprise me if Reddit worked with OpenAI and Google and other AI companies to help them get the data they want by letting them manipulate subs.
*reddit will tag their own chatgpt bots to prevent them from being banned, and then through false positives will ban the last of the real users from the site.
i bet they also ignore half of the propaganda bots to look fair in thier moderations. the only signicant bannings we see is actual users, and the low hanging fruits, of and people posting links to thier businesses.
I don’t believe that for 1 millisecond.
Spez won’t be able to stop himself from enshitifying reddit in any way he can to appease those VC pump&dump scammers he’s spent the last decade ruining reddit for.
Fuck reddit, It’s a shithole.
Sometimes I have to return for various reasons. God. Some of them have absolutely bled over to the fediverse, but holy HELL are the people and the culture there messed up. I don’t know if it’s getting worse or I’m healing.
Personally I feel like I am healing. I haven’t signed into reddit since they bent the knee to musk. I have noticed that I have become less toxic. I still go off half cocked like an idiot but I have been more tactful about it. I hope to keep working on it because I honestly never noticed until I had been away from reddit for a few weeks.
I haven’t signed into reddit since they bent the knee to musk.
What did I miss here? Reddit hates musk…
Spez doesn’t
How did they bend the knee to musk is what I’m asking.
Started banning everyone who says mean things about Tesla and musk. Banned whole subreddits for him.
Edit: oh it’s fucking you, of course it fucking is. How much they paying you?
Source please
What’s the difference between Reddit and Lemmy culturally? I thought that the people who moved over here held opinions fairly typical of Reddit.
Hmm… Reddit users tend to be less thoughtful and more ready to play to the crowd, as opposed to a more personal approach on lemmy/fediverse. It’s an important distinction, that lemmy is based on the idea of being nice to people. By doing so, I hope to, and have seen, far less one-liners and dismissive jokes. It’s less toxic imo. It’s not perfect, but we have to work in steps, together as a society in order to get to enlightenment like that. And lemmy is a decent step away from what Reddit culture has become.
Also, I think lemmy people are a bit less selfish and more socialist as an average, which probably contributes. I think it helps to go, “capitalism bad, let me actually try to take a step away from that and try to do (at least technologically) something that’s better.” Personally, I’m not a communist or pure socialist, but I’m definitely not gruntled by any means with our current socioeconomic systems. I’ve talked to some tankie friends irl and not only do we disagree a on some things, but one person believed that what I want doesn’t exist/isn’t a known societal structure, which is fine to me, that just means we haven’t tried it yet.
While I completely agree with you about the absence of one-liners and meme comments, and even more left leaning community, there’s still that strong element of “gotcha” in discussions. Also tonnes of people not reading an article before commenting (at a better rate than Reddit probably), and a generally even more doomer attitude is common here.
Don’t think they’re doing this out of the goodness of the hearts, they’re just trying to avoid the “shit in, shit out” affect of their data sample.
Too late ~
Oh no! Anyway
“Drink verification can to continue”
They’re doing this to better identify you
Reddit: User content belongs to us. You can’t scrape, collect, use, or have bots interact with it… unless you pay us.
Lemmy is the same in terms of ownership btw, as is pretty much every online platform. Anything you post is owned by the owner of the instance that it is on and that it federates to. You don’t own it.
I dare you to compare the largest possible instance vs Reddit as a whole.
I don’t think you understood my comment.
The bots post better comments than most of their users.
Someone could create a forum for bots to discuss with each other. Call it Redbit. The bot could generate every possible questuon to ask and even steal questions from quora, reddit, Xitter, and every other forum, various AI bots can then reply to those questions with the best replies.
It can help put reddit out of business. Since most people are just looking for answers when they search google and get a reddit hit, most people don’t even bother to sign for reddit and etc.
That was just /r/subredditsimulator
Today one said they brought shame to their family line by having a giant tattoo on their wrist of an ex (who was actually dead). Boyfriend just now noticed said tattoo after a year. Picture looked like every letter of the tattoo was in a random healing stage and they were standing on a tire with a random toe censored.
It’s bad over there.
