Most Us Americans couldn’t even find Iran and Isreal on a map so this doesn’t surprise me.
I don’t disagree, but for what it’s worth, I don’t think most Europeans could either. As a comparison, I can certainly tell you that most Europeans can’t identify US states on a map outside of maybe one or two, and have no concept about the size of the US generally. That’s why Americans constantly hear about how we should be “protesting in DC,” as if people in Lisbon would ever protest in Helsinki. I don’t think ignorance and provincialism is a localized phenomenon.
lol generic “Washington DC” is ~2,700 miles away, 4,345 kilometers, from me! And I live in the lower 48/continental US
I totally agree that most Europeans wouldn’t know that especially the size. In Europa the education standards varies alot between countries too. Is that true for different states aswell? I might have been to quick to generalize.
My point was more along the lines that you should know the location of the countries you actively waged war in. I didn’t realize it changed to Iran I meant Iraq.
Europe works fundamentally different so it’s hard to compare this statement. If i lived in Portugal why should I protest the Finnish government, they have little to non power over me. I think a fairer comparison would be to “protest in Brüssel” which a few groups did do but certainly less. Or do you just chose that comparison based on the distance?
But I certainly agree that education could be better everywhere!
That’s right, each state has its own educational standards. For example, Colorado’s educational system is very, very different from West Virginia, like it’s a different country.
I made the comparison of Lisbon to Helsinki solely because of the distances involved; it’s roughly the same distance as Seattle to DC.
If it helps to imagine it, the US is basically an unhappy married couple forced to live in the same house.
I’ve never waged war in any country actually, despite being born in the US, believe it or not but we aren’t all personally in charge of what the US does as it’s citizens, we actually have very very little power because our reps aren’t legally required to vote or do as we say
When even the “more trustworthy” US news outlets (HAHAHAHAHA!) are manufacturing consent, it becomes very difficult for us to be anything other than idiots. Talking with my longtime acquaintances and friends in CA, DE, VN, and JP, the conversations invariably become “Did you hear about [current event causal factors]? This is super obvious, and here is [their reliable news sources].” Well, shit.
For example, the one that really blew me away was the US manipulating geopolitics with UA and RU so as to bring the EU to heel. WAT. “Oh yeah. I think US citizens are the only ones to whom that isn’t obvious. Y’all can’t stand having a true, strong democracy around. That’s why y’all are pushing the right-wing shit here too.”
I consider myself well-read (30+ non-fiction books per year, plus investigative journalism), but damn… some days I feel truly, completely out of the loop.
This is such a terrible thing to say in a thread about a propaganda campaign to cover up a genocide. If I was more conspiracy minded I’d start to think it was a planned effort to distract from the topic at hand considering how often it comes up in these sorts of threads.
Unfortunately, I actually think it’s just some asshole that wants to feel superior. Since that’s probably the case, I’m also pretty sure you’d label like half the midwest as Texas, and probably think that a trip to New York is just a quick 30 minute drive for people in Florida.
So now that we’ve gotten our trite digs in on one another can we focus on the matter at hand? Cause I seriously doubt that the people being genocided give two fucks about this conversation.
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Thank you for your service.
Reads more like a hit piece on pbs rather than its starting premise that American media in general failed. Especially given the recent efforts to defund pbs there is a irony in twisting narratives about twisted narratives.
Thanks for the link. My education on all this stuff began Oct 7th. Why would anyone shoot up a rave??! Makes sense now.