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In February, US President Donald Trump declared that “The US will take over the Gaza Strip” and “level out” the remaining buildings and transfer the Palestinian population to “other countries.” At the time, both US and international media dismissed Trump’s plan as an “outlandish” scheme with no prospect of realization.
The Israeli government approached Trump’s plan with deadly seriousness. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu praised Trump’s “bold vision” for an ethnically cleansed Gaza. “We’re working on it,” Trump said during a meeting in Washington last month.
On Monday, the Netanyahu government effectively announced the beginning of the final stage of ethnic cleansing in Gaza. The plan includes a full military occupation of the entire Gaza Strip and the mass internment of the population in concentration camps under armed guard, as a prelude to forced marches through the desert or deportation by sea.
These concentration camps will be staffed by private US security contractors, with the Israel Defense Forces overseeing the distribution of starvation rations. According to a report this week by Reuters, the United States and Israel are actively discussing the formation of a “transitional government” headed by a US official to administer Gaza.
Echoing the “final solution,” the Nazi term for the genocide of Europe’s Jews, Netanyahu declared, “It’s time to launch the concluding moves.” The next day, Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich explained the meaning of the Israeli government’s plan:
Within a year, … Gaza will be entirely destroyed, civilians will be sent to … the south to a humanitarian zone … and from there they will start to leave in great numbers to third countries.
The mechanism for the forcible displacement of the Palestinian people will be mass starvation. As National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir made clear, “No electricity, and no other aid should be allowed—neither by the [Israeli military] nor by civil society.”
On March 2, Israel imposed a total blockade on all food, water and electricity entering the Gaza Strip. As a result, the majority of Gaza’s community kitchens have been forced to shut down due to a lack of supplies, and cases of acute malnutrition have surged by more than 80 percent. Harrowing images have circulated of emaciated, starving children—victims of a famine that is entirely man-made.
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We are the baddies. We are allowing our governments to do it. We are the German citizens who for whatever reason let Nazi Germany become a murder machine.
Today we are quiet so that we don’t get targeted. How long until we have to pledge our support so that we don’t get targeted? How long until we have to contribute so we don’t get targeted?
And here you have it how Germany turned like this during WWII. Propaganda, and dehumanization of the adversaries. As you can see this is still possible even now.
Probably easier than ever
Yup. Take universal internet access and combine it with the handful of megacorps that control the modern web; with that combo it has never been easier for shitty people to come together and reinforce each other’s shitty beliefs.
“Let”
The majority of voters chose this.
If only hillary didn’t win the primary in 2016, then trump wouldn’t have won the election.
Fuck the moderate white.
Wasn’t it closer to slightly more than a third?
Among voters, it was more than half. If you didn’t vote, you don’t count.
If you didn’t vote, you voted for this. This is a representative democracy, and voting is the absolute least you can possibly do.
You don’t get out of your civic duty by abstaining – you’re implicitly supporting the winner by failing to do the bare minimum. You’re doing far worse if you uttered one sentence to convince others to abstain with you, which many, many did.
Unless you live in a literal cave, you’re complicit.
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I think that misrepresents the situation in a bad way though. Of possible voters, it was barely over a third—they are not a majority, don’t make it appear as though they are
In a democracy, not voting means that you are saying, “I’m fine with whoever the rest of you choose. I’m good with either.”
Actually, if I recall it was ultimately still slightly less than half (after the massive excess of California votes that don’t count came in). He still had the most votes of the candidates, but no candidate garnered more than half.
Which is really just splitting hairs on a technicality, ultimately 77 million people voted this way, and it would have still been a deep problem even if Harris had won the popular and electoral votes.
first they came for the palestinians…
“Don’t you dare compare us to the nazis!! That’s plain antisemitism! You’re a nazi!” I’m sick and fucking tired of this rhetoric. Grow some balls Netanyahu and admit you’re a fucking nazi. The world already knows it.
His dad wrote a book which flirted with suggesting that the Jews who didn’t escape the Holocaust were inferior.
There is some deeply fucked up internal racism in some Jewish communities.
Oooooooooffffffff what the fuck
Bibi himself:
It’s a fucked up way to insinuate that Hitler wouldn’t have suggested the Holocaust if not for Muslims. Which, no fuck that. I know I could Google “Poland pogram” and find some medieval account of mass graves or something entirely motivated by the fucking blood libel. Poisoning the wells (bubonic plague) or making matzo balls with the blood of gentiles.
It’s like the outrage that any criticism of Israel summons. That it’s antisemitic to say “yeah no this is pretty fucked up.” As if the fucking state of Israel under war criminal Bibi is identified with Judaism itself.
One of the things that shocks me to this day - I played a National Security Defense Game at GenCon as Bibi. I basically did what he has done. I played it as he did. I could not fucking win - everyone was like yah no you are a mega corrupt criminal. I was courting Trump, spreading conspiracy theories. I got booted the fuck out of office.
I retroactively win lol.
“We can’t possibly be Nazis because we disagree with them about who the Untermensch are.”
If you are expecting fascists to ‘come clean’ you don’t understand fascism
He literally can’t be a Nazi. Being Anti-Semitic is a core pillar of Nazism.
He is a fascist. Being a fascist is in no way better than Nazism. Calling him a fascist carries the same weight as calling him a Nazi and it is correct, while calling him a Nazi is a impossibility.
Stop using buzzwords. Use the actual terminology.
He literally can’t be a Nazi. Being Anti-Semitic is a core pillar of Nazism.
Israel is the most anti-semitic country in existence right now, so if you think that is a “core pillar” of Nazism (it isn’t), he ticks that box. But more importantly any group can absolutely be Nazis, they don’t have to subscribe to Hitler’s definition of who the chosen people are.
But hey, at least you stopped Harris and Biden. Imagine how much worse Gaza would be if you didn’t do that! \s
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This plan was initially discussed during the Biden administration, and Biden didn’t provide any pushback against it.
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Democrats in the House and Senate continue to overwhelmingly support and vote for Israel, even when it is openly committing genocide.
Democratic leaders haven’t decreased their support of Israel one bit since the election. In fact, they’ve doubled down. What evidence do you have that Kamala would have been any better of this than Trump. Both parties are united in giving 100% total support to Israel. You can’t support something more than 100%. Both parties max that stat out.
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60000 had died by june last year according to the lancet.
Remind me who was in charge then?
Also be prepared that shit’s gonna get deleted. Admins don’t like it when you point out their duplicity.
Ok, so does this kick off WW3 or are other nations just going to roll over and allow this to happen?
How the hell is this even a plausible timeline we’re living in?
It’s always been like this. We just have the Internet now so we can learn about it happening.
No, these are unprecedented times and anyone who tells you otherwise is lying for their own ulterior purposes
You think ethnic cleansing is new? They’re literally talking about how this is very similar to what the Nazis did.
The times are quite precedented. We are looking unfortunately similar to Germany in the lead up to WWII.
The only thing new is it’s the US doing it from across the world. This kind of thing has happened many times in history. It has happened in Africa and Asia, the Americas. There are probably elements that are unprecedented, but the bigger story is not.
The only thing new is it’s the US doing it from across the world
Bahahahahahahhaa
Go ask a Vietnamese or a North Korean what they think of that statement, lmao
Point taken! I was just trying to not completely disagree to be nice. I guess I didn’t think it through. The US government is a beast that has tried to hide itself from the people with lies and propaganda for a long time. The info that came out about JFK’s assassination recently gives a glimpse that it’s been going on for a long time.
I’m not a fan of Trump, but neither is the deep state war & money machine. They’re trying to stir up violence from the left to goad Trump into further eroding our right to protest and other rights. It’s why they fund both parties and widen political rifts. They win no matter who wins any given election.
They don’t need violence from the left to become fascists, they can do it by themselves.
They win no matter who wins any given election
Yes, because both parties in power in the US fundamentally stand for the same geopolitically. Geopolitics are mostly bipartisan in the US.
It’s always unprecedented times, history never stops being made
Good job everyone who advocated for 3rd parties or abstained because this ghoul was ‘the same’ as Biden or Harris. I hope you’re sleeping well that razing Gaza is the same as not doing that.
Great work. Perhaps you’ll get a discount on the new trump branded resorts they’ll build on that land, which we fucking warned you he wanted to do years ago.
I’m done trying to warn people. You won’t fucking listen so I’m wasting my breath, and these ‘I told you so’s just taste too bitter.
Wake me when you’re ruffling the ashes of your own countrymen from your hair (or don’t, because I’ll be seasoning your egg salad with what’s left of my bones).
e: MItHC reference, and since I’m both disabled and queer, I’m going down with this ship
So many of the “people” saying that were Russian trolls, I can’t imagine actually buying into it though… like if your ideology aligns with a Russian troll farm how do you even continue to function? Like, reassess your life ffs
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Ohhh. Man in the High Castle.
I really liked that series when it came out. Now it hurts to watch.
That’s who you want to blame? World full of Nazis and you wanna stop and waste your energy, breath and time on fighting folk who couldn’t condone moderate genocide?
Shows your priorities. Despicable.
I got banned from the chappo sub yesterday for laughing at them for their protest vote.
At least I don’t wake up every morning knowing I helped put maga in
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Zionists deserve all the vigilante justice that’s coming to them.
Everyone single one of them should be afraid.
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Bro wtf, thanks for doing the actual antisemitism that they accuse people of. The Israeli elite perpetrating this genocide are just Europeans who moved there in the early 20th century, they’ve got nothing to do with Jews from the bronze age except that they use them as a dumb excuse.
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Eh. Ben-Gvir is Mizrahi, while Hippie Kibbutzim are full of Ashkenazi. Netanyahu is Ashkenazi, but also from a Russian background. Jigal Amir is Mizrahi.
Not saying that European BS doesn’t have a role in this, it laid the foundations, but the current political landscape of Israel would look quite differently without all the newer arrivals. There’s definite electoral trends among the ethnic backgrounds, long story short Mizrahis don’t hail from places where there’s ever been anything like a functional social democracy, they’ve also been minorities there, mix that with European fascism and you get… well, people like Ben-Gvir and Amir.
My history knowledge is lacking, what did the Romans do?
Reinvaded those territories and did standard roman stuff. Executing and enslaving the inhabitants of Jerusalem.
Israel of all countries turning into a full-blown fascist state complete with its own holocaust would be really funny in an ironic way if it wasn’t so deeply sad and tragic.
The cycle of abuse on a national scale. Its crazy to see.
Trumps collaborating but this was always zionisms goal and method. Lets not hang this completely on America. This is Israel.
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Reality check. This kind of terrible treatment of entire populations of people has been commonplace for awhile now. The Uyghurs, Shuar, Syrian “rebels”, there’s definitely more. None of them were tied to kidnappers or oppressors.
And I encourage the U.S. to immediately cut support and stop providing diplomatic cover to these other groups committing genocide as well. And to stop suppressing Americans’ free speech when they speak out against it.
Gypsies, latinos, black people, natives,
