• @rbesfe@lemmy.ca
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    117 days ago

    Gun violence in Canada is near exclusively committed with illegal firearms brought up from the states. The limits on long guns for people with PALs does nothing to curb the violence.

    Also, lots of specific model gun prohibitions are literally based on how scary a gun looks and not anything to do with things like barrel length or caliber. The FN FAL was recently prohibited because you can fix a bayonet, like all those pesky criminals are doing these days…

    • Sunshine (she/her)OP
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      26 days ago

      Really pushing the disinformation and gaslighting here. Pearl clutching about your weapons designed to kill others under the guise of “hobbies”

      Illegal guns are sold from legal owners to criminals. So no they’re not “well intentioned individuals”

      There was also an incident where a father used his legal gun to kill his wife, father in law then himself. Wouldn’t have happened if he wasn’t allowed access to guns in the first place.

      “78.3% of gun-related domestic homicides in Canada were committed with firearms in the legal possession of licensed owners.”

      https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Guns-in-family-violence%3A-legal-weapons-pose-the-Alpers/4d9d64178589bce820cf197674f694324921e7d7

      • @FireRetardant@lemmy.world
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        36 days ago

        Your source was published in 1995. A lot of regulation has changed over the last 30 years. I wonder what the numbers look like now.

      • @AlmightyTritan@beehaw.org
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        36 days ago

        Am I misunderstanding, or is the article you linked from 1995? I have a feeling a lot has changed with fireams related homicides since then. Especially with the advent of firearms being built out of a bunch of disparate parts.

        • Sunshine (she/her)OP
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          Few recent Canadian mass shooters had criminal records of any kind, for example, and most obtained their weapons legally (although the Portapique killer did not).

          the remaining 20 to 25 per cent of firearm deaths that are not suicide, the data is unclear but appears to follow the Canadian homicide pattern of 31 per cent resulting from family violence. The presence of a gun in a household struggling with heavy drinking, domestic violence and other stresses is inherently intimidating and deadly.

          The family violence crisis is not just about deaths; it’s also about the health of the home environment. Thousands of Canadian women and children are forced to seek shelter from violence and abuse every day, while many more live in fear.

          The northern and rural regions of all provinces experience significantly higher homicide rates than southern and metropolitan regions.

          This tracks with data from the Canadian Association of Emergency Physicians showing significantly higher gun ownership in northern, rural and Indigenous communities.

          So although the overall picture is complex, the dominant themes are remarkably clear. Given the driving patterns of self-harm and gun violence, a phased-in reduction of easy access to weapons is likely to yield significant results over time. This isn’t controversial, as it’s worked for many other countries for decades.

          https://www.nationalobserver.com/2022/06/02/opinion/surprising-truth-about-gun-deaths-canada

              • @tankfox@midwest.social
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                15 hours ago

                I am, family violence is fueled by alcohol. You’re right though, families would be safer with a complete ban on both guns and alcohol.

          • @AlmightyTritan@beehaw.org
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            16 days ago

            Thank you for providing this information. Your previous link really didn’t paint the image I think you wanted to.

            I think a lot of the disconnect woth people is that a lot of Canadians are faced with what they perceive as a lot more grave issues endangering peoples lives. And it differs between provinces and even as your links state municipal vs rural areas.

            I think because we don’t have the constant threat of mass shootings the likes of the USA, those in areas less impacted by fire arm deaths are more apathetic. Or maybe just view it as we’ve done enough.

            Obviously governments should have the capacity to deal with multiple issues at once, but I think people really get caught up in the “why are you worrying about this, when X thing is way more dangerous.”. It might come off as whataboutism, and often times it can be, but I think k its just as easy to say that person hasn’t been as broadly effected by guns and someone else.

  • @walktheplank@lemmy.world
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    These assholes. They can stop making us American. We have a much different relationship with guns and American influence can fuck off out of our country and so can all you promoting it.

    • Sunshine (she/her)OP
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      16 days ago

      A prominent gun control group is urging Prime Minister Mark Carney to swiftly implement Liberal election promises on firearms and avoid the foot-dragging that left many pledges under the previous government unfulfilled.

      PolySeSouvient includes students and graduates of Montreal’s École Polytechnique, where a gunman killed 14 women in 1989.

      • @walktheplank@lemmy.world
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        36 days ago

        In 2023, half (49%) of firearm-related violent crime involved the presence of a handgun, followed by a firearm-like weapon or an unknown type of firearm (31%), a rifle or shotgun (15%) and a fully automatic or sawed-off shotgun (4.7%). In the provinces, handguns were most common in urban areas while rifles or shotguns, and firearm-like weapons or unknown types of firearms, were more common in rural areas.

        Shooting was the leading cause of death among homicide victims in 2023, accounting for nearly four in ten (38%) of all homicides. More than half (56%) of all shooting homicides were caused by handguns.

        https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/85-002-x/2025001/article/00002-eng.htm

        The Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, today announced the national freeze on the sale, purchase, and transfer of handguns comes into effect. From now on, people cannot buy, sell, or transfer handguns within Canada, and they cannot bring newly acquired handguns into the country

        Dated October 21, 2022

        https://www.pm.gc.ca/en/news/news-releases/2022/10/21/freezing-market-handguns

  • Swordgeek
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    25 days ago

    I support strict gun control laws, and also have my RPAL.

    My question is what specific changes do they want, and what specific weakness does it address?

    Are there deficiencies in our laws that could be improved, to reduce firearm injuries and deaths? Let’s have at 'em!

    Are there specifc guns that are too easy to modify to full-auto? Don’t need 'em.

    But if we’re going to start (continue) banning guns only because they look scary, then stop with the performative BS.

  • Sunshine (she/her)OP
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    36 days ago

    PolySeSouvient’s letter, dated last Friday, is copied to others, including Provost, current Public Safety Minister David McGuinty and Rachel Bendayan, a former associate public safety minister.

    The group says the new public safety minister should be directed to:

    — build an incentive package in the buyback program to encourage early compliance;

    — conduct meaningful consultations with stakeholders before draft bills, regulations, directives and public education campaigns are made public;

    — immediately launch an investigation into the classification of the SKS, a rifle that has been used in mass and police shootings, to find a solution that protects public safety and respects Indigenous rights to hunt;

    — eliminate all loopholes, exemptions and exceptions related to magazine capacity.

    We should hastily implement every recommendation.

  • @Pogogunner@sopuli.xyz
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    188 days ago

    How many Canadians are killed by gun violence? May 8, 2024 by Wayne Fletcher

    In Canada, approximately 250 to 300 people are killed by gun violence each year.

    (https://thegunzone.com/how-many-canadians-are-killed-by-gun-violence/)

    Motor Vehicle Fatalities on the Rise in Canada – 2024 Data Study Overall Findings:

    After three decades of decline, the number of motor vehicle fatalities in Canada went up by 6% in 2022

    The number of fatalities is estimated to have reached 2,004 in 2023 and is projected to increase to 2,045 (+2% YoY) by the end of 2024

    (https://www.preszlerlaw.com/blog/motor-vehicle-fatalities-on-rise-in-canada/)

    • acargitz
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      87 days ago

      Are you making some kind of weird whataboutist argument here? Road safety and gun safety are not mutually exclusive.

      • @Pogogunner@sopuli.xyz
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        57 days ago

        They’re not mutually exclusive, but cars are much more dangerous than guns. Car violence needs to be addressed before gun violence.

          • @Pogogunner@sopuli.xyz
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            27 days ago

            Solving car violence is achievable without stripping rights and inviting government tyranny. Solving gun violence is not.

            • acargitz
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              77 days ago

              Now you’re saying something different from before. Before you were talking about the order in which the two problems should be addressed, now you’re telling about whether each one should be addressed and how. You’re not discussing in good faith.

            • Sunshine (she/her)OP
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              56 days ago

              Safety regulations does not equate to “government tyranny”

              That’s the same argument made against seat belts, masks and vaccines.

  • acargitz
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    97 days ago

    Don’t fall for the conservative framing of the issue. If you read the article, these are all sensible commitments that they are requesting, that essentially enshrine further things that actually responsible gun owners would be taking for granted.

  • Maple Engineer
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    27 days ago

    The Liberals are never going to come for my guns because I don’t own military style guns and cosplay as a Gravy Seal.