I first ran into the Copilot integration in Notepad a couple of days ago and immediately turned it right the fuck off.

In November, Microsoft began testing an update that allowed users to rewrite or summarize text in Notepad using generative AI. Another preview update today takes it one step further, allowing you to write AI-generated text from scratch with basic instructions (the feature is called Write, to differentiate it from the earlier Rewrite).

Like Rewrite and Summarize, Write requires users to be signed into a Microsoft Account, because using it requires you to use your monthly allotment of Microsoft’s AI credits. Per this support page, users without a paid Microsoft 365 subscription get 15 credits per month. Subscribers with Personal and Family subscriptions get 60 credits per month instead.

Microsoft notes that all AI features in Notepad can be disabled in the app’s settings, and obviously, they won’t be available if you use a local account instead of a Microsoft Account.

  • @badgerson@feddit.dk
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    42 days ago

    As always, when notepad.exe is suddenly connecting to the internet, you can be sure something’s wrong.

  • 𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘
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    484 days ago

    Counterpoint:

    In 3.5 years, Notepad.exe has gone from “perfect text-only editor” to “ai-laden spyware/malware”

    • @Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      163 days ago

      And they killed Wordpad for that.

      Now I didnt use wordpad at all and was content with txt and md files.
      But that is vile.

      • 𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘
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        43 days ago

        I actually did use WordPad occasionally, but it wasn’t a huge loss for me, since LibreOffice does this. LO is just too overpowered for a quick RTF edit, so I used WordPad. Besides work, I only windows for a specific usecase, not as a daily, but it was still annoying.

    • Pete HahnloserOP
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      84 days ago

      Problem: Not enough AI training data. Solution: Start scraping everything people type in Notepad, errors and all.

      • 𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘
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        54 days ago

        They don’t need notepad for that. They control your entire OS, and all inputs. All they need to do, is capture all inputs (which they already do and package it all nicely as Recall). They’re using notepad as just a user-facing justification for the spying they do throughout the rest of the OS.

  • Bezier
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    924 days ago

    “Barely maintained”

    Notepad was a very simple application. Did it even need more effoet put into it? Looks more like they fixed what was not broken.

      • unalivejoy
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        104 days ago

        They should’ve stopped at support for utf-8 encoding and unix line endings.

    • @taxet_@sopuli.xyz
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      184 days ago

      This. It needed absolutely nothing added to it. You could write text files, what more did anyone ever need from it? The app was done. It was ready.

      This is a concept that is not even in the vocabulary of IT companies these days and I can understand it for complex systems that have dependencies up the wazoo but notepad was just a notepad and that was good enough.

      • @dfyx@lemmy.helios42.de
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        134 days ago

        There were a few things that it eventually got but lacked for way too long like support for UNIX line endings.

    • @GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca
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      114 days ago

      It was definitely lacking in core areas. Large files, better search, possibly spell check (and why isn’t spell check core Windows functionality?). It also could have used better handling for non-Windows text files. But overall, yes, this wasn’t a program that needed a dedicated team to manage or improve.

      • The_Decryptor
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        (and why isn’t spell check core Windows functionality?)

        It actually is, introduced in Windows 8, it’s just taken devs ages to actually start using it (Notepad only got it last year, 12 years after it was introduced)

        • @GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca
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          13 days ago

          If Windows was actually good, you could have it take a question and paste the results into Notepad without having to add AI there. If it was really good, the AI segment would be optional.

      • FiveMacs
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        64 days ago

        I shall take a peek. I don’t plan on upgrading to W11 so notepad won’t even be a thing anymore anyways.

        • @thingsiplay@beehaw.org
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          44 days ago

          Oh wait, if you are not familiar with Vim or Neovim, then this won’t be for you probably. It works completely different compared to a regular text editor and is somewhat complicated and for terminal. There are benefits to it why that is, but just so you know its not a “normal” editor. This is just a warning. :D

          In example the keys h, j, k, l are used to move the cursor in the editor and every key is a special command basically. You have to switch into editing mode to type in text.

          • Pete HahnloserOP
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            44 days ago

            I tried vi in college and still haven’t been able to exit. (exaggeration, of course, but dear god, that made Notepad seem user friendly) When in Linux, I tend to use Kate and nano.

            • @beezkneez@beehaw.org
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              24 days ago

              Yeah, you kinda need to know this before opening it. I was first introduced to vim in a uni course, so it was written out in the assignment text. But with emacs I had to throw the comouter away.

            • @thingsiplay@beehaw.org
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              24 days ago

              Actually Vi is not Vim. Vim is a lot user friendly with its documentation. The question is, what you expect and if you learn it properly. Its not unser unfriendly, its just different. It’s like saying GIMP is user unfriendly, because you used Photoshop before and GIMP is not exactly the same.

              end of my rant :D

          • FiveMacs
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            44 days ago

            I’ve used vim in the past, normally stuck with nano though. It won’t be a big shock with how different it is. My daily driving is current windows so never bothered with much else other than notepad++ but come October I’m formatting all drives in my house to rid myself of anything windows related and starting fresh with some Linux flavor. Most likely ubuntu or mint, haven’t settled yet

            • Pete HahnloserOP
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              34 days ago

              I cycled through a number of distros a few years back on my mini HTPC before finally settling on KDE Neon. The amount of customization with panels and such is insane. I started by trying to recreate the Windows experience (which is dead simple) but soon branched out to having multiple panels, which can be autohidden individually. Settings on the left side of the screen, power options on the right (both set to hide), system tray up top, and the task manager at the bottom.

  • Michael
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    134 days ago

    And how much slower is it to launch and use?

    • Pete HahnloserOP
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      33 days ago

      I got the most badass mousepad I’ve ever seen in Germany. It was a cartoon of someone trying to sell an abacus to the king with a mouse (an actual one) with its tail nailed to it, and his advisor suggesting he wait, as in (some number of months – I got it in 1995, so details are a bit hazy) it will cost half the price.

      I only remember some of this verbatim, but it was absolute gold because of double meanings.

      Ihr solltet noch warteninclusive Mausauf Festplatte

      The mouse is easy enough to jump language comprehension (though “inclusive” is pronounced differently), but Festplatte means both a wooden board, as the base of the abacus was, and hard drive.

      • @xtrapoletariat@beehaw.org
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        This one, I guess.

        “The latest generation of ‘calculators’ (German synonym: computer), 16 colors, on a ‘solid plate’ (syn: hard drive) including mouse.”

        “You should wait - it’s half the price in six months”

        by Uli Stein

        • Pete HahnloserOP
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          That’s the one! Awesome! Thanks for the link.

          I didn’t realise he was from Niedersachsen … that would explain how I ran into it in Hameln.

  • @chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    34 days ago

    I don’t use it, but I assume the writes for you was to imitate VS Codes GitHub copilot. While it will suggest code in stuff like scripts, you can absolutely ignore it