I wanted to buy something second-hand. Unfortunately, Facebook Marketplace is the shit where I live. So I thought I could quickly register, contact the seller, and delete my account afterwards.
However, I refuse to participate in this insanity. Video selfie my ass, Facebook.
Youtube also does this
Oh HELL no
Nextdoor is the place I buy / sell secondhand goods. I signed up years ago, but the way they verified you then was you gave an address and they mailed you a post card. It is still a hassle, but imo it keeps the bots out which is nice. A lot less scammers on there.
To confirm your identity…
Yeah, bullshit. This is to help train their facial recognition AI.
I mean, it’s a bit of both.
I don’t think they care if you’re real anymore
They care quite a bit.
Bots and spammers make for miserable revenue generators. If you don’t distinguish your marks from your players, there’s no way to make money at the poker table.
I would agree with this if Zuck hadn’t been in the news recently talking about how Meta is desperately filling their userbase with bots, on purpose
There is a big difference between bots you control and use for you own gain, and bots that someone else owns and uses for their gain
I would agree with this and in fact I do
~ Mitch Hedberg
Can’t really be a bit of both because they can’t confirm shit if they don’t know what you look like in the first place. It could be to confirm that you are human (and maybe that you don’t already have an account) but they can’t confirm your “identity”.
Sadly they totally can. There are plenty of face databases already that they could use if they wanted[1], but if you have friends on Facebook (or Instagram) you might be in their pictures and Facebook run it’s facial recognition on every picture. Whether they can connect that to an identity or not isn’t something I know, but it’s not out of the realm of possibility.
Tangentially related, I remember over ten years ago getting notified that I could tag myself in friends uploaded pictures that I was in, which was also when I started to get really creeped out by Facebook.
I remember this podcast about some https://www.searchengine.show/should-this-creepy-search-engine-exist/ but there is a decent amount of reporting about them ↩︎
It’s deff KYC bullshit first and fore most. Training data is a cherry
Kyc requirements are for banks
Yeah banks and other financial institutions are elegally madated to do it.
Social media does it for “fun”
this is not a kyc requirement imposed on facebook based on laws, but by facebook based on their ToS.
and if they find or know a way to sell that with the other data colleted from you, they will proudly do it
For years people have given me the blinking stare of unbelief when I tell them I’ve never had a Facebook. Now being absent on that platform and others is seen as suspicious. I got a buddy who couldn’t complete a job application because Facebook was a mandatory field in the electronic form. The border Gestapo and the State Department require your socials for visa applications. A friend told me that she wouldn’t date a guy without socials because she browses them as a kind of background check.
Fuck Meta.
Most of those are indeed bullshit since authorities have better platforms and businesses don’t need to know your private info.
But women doing background checks to see what kind of men they are dating on the only platforms they have access to is just security. You can even leave your accounts info fully locked except for friends.
No, it’s quite healthy to each having their private account they don’t share with their partner. Guess what the reverse is.
Apparently you’re a modern horror story.
That’s a generational thing. 99% of my friends and people of my age I know have never had Facebook.
Instagram, however…Too old or too young?
Too young. Most facebook users are actually boomers nowadays.
For years people have given me the blinking stare of unbelief when I tell them I’ve never had a Facebook.
The same people who two decades ago would have look at you sideways for using internet to talk with strangers. These idiots always conform to what is popular.
You can bypass this via https://github.com/hacksider/Deep-Live-Cam. You can get the faces needed from https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/. Although if you are privacybro, there’s no documentation yet for running Deep Live Cam on Linux. This method is more private than using phone numbers since you can do this with disposable emails.
Modern problems require modern solutions! Thanks.
We don’t need documentation where we’re going 🌈
Oh, sweet. Not using Facebook, but that’s nice !
I got this on one of my joke accounts years ago.
I googled “3d face generator”, clicked on the first website, and slapped in an image of trump. Then I just rotated the 3d model following whatever the instructions were, and it worked lol
which means a bot could also easily pass the test, even though they claim it’s for checking you are not a bot
Discord asks your phone number for logging in from different locations when you already have TOTP 2FA and they still try to gaslight knowing your phone number is for your “security”
I would sooner put my nuts in an iron vice while running 10.000 volts through it and lighting it on fire than provide Facebook with anything at all.
Me too, but it has nothing to do with Facebook. Don’t kink shame me.
How about putting googly eyes on your nuts and making a video selfie of them to send Facebook?
🏀🍆👀⚽
that might actually get him verified
I think I will steal your wording for future use.
Have you ever had a Facebook account?
Nope. Managed to stay off of it for my entire life so far. Reason for it was that back in '05 or a bit later one of the very first things I learned about the nascent Facebook, was Zuck’s famous “Dumb fucks” remark about his early users. I rightfully concluded that someone with such a mindset would be an absolutely plague on mankind and I would never willingly help them in any way, no matter how insignificant.
What socials have you had then?
Reddit until two years ago, and now Lemmy. That’s honestly it.
Same for me. I never understood what motivated that content and, by extension, why I should care about consuming it.
Ooo you had a cheeseburger tonight! IDGAF.
Some witty political insights! Fuck off.
Your child was born! Wonderful, send an email or an announcement card in the mail.
Large scale emergency! I’m going to a reputable news source; I don’t need user-curated echo chambers.
Old friends and acquaintances catching up? I’ve had the same cell phone number for 25 years. If they wanted to reach out, they can refer to the phone number I wrote in the yearbook.
It’s just dumb.
Fair enough, I honestly applaud you for that, because you’ve managed to avoid the data sucking machine of meta and its services
I had one many years ago because my wife talked me i to it and ‘deleted’ it due to not using it after a couple years because it was showing me other things than just my contacts even back then. It was mostly a way to see my hogh school acquaintences and childhood friends who moved far away were still alive.
The superficial connections were fine, but not engaging like nearby friends. I have one friend who does post there and sometimes forgets to put it elsewhere, but my wife lets me know when he does.
Note: I put ‘deleted’ because there is zero chance they deleted anything other than the ability to log in.
Even if you don’t have a facebook account, you’ve got a facebook account.
Zucky needs your image so he can share with with Homeland, in case you visit too many liberal pages.
“We, a company that has allowed AI generated propaganda to run rampant and destabilize global politics, need to make sure you are a real person so you must provide us with a video proving you are real that we totally wont use for AI and facial recognition purposes.”
I 100% trust this, Zuckerberg is fine upstanding man
Yup. I can attest that he’s never said about his users, “dumb fucks trust me”
Video selfie my ass
That probably won’t work, since they expect your face. Worth a try, though.
just do a face swap thingy
These verification systems have already been defeated with locally-run AI models. This is now only a barrier to humans.
also helps feed their mass surveillance
This is the reason i haven’t delete my facebook, my pre-massively-enshittified account doesn’t need to go through any of this shit.
Yeah, I regret deleting my old account now. I never used it except for marketplace. Now I’m realizing Craigslist is pretty much dead in comparison
I don’t regret deleting mine. I don’t need any of that shit, fuck ’em.
I made an account over decade ago, never really used it even back then because I was suspicious even then. Then i tried logging in years after that and they demanded passport or some other identification to even let me log in.
So i sent them a picture i drew myself, i would post it here but i dont think i have the file anymore. It was basically like a mockup passport with picture of a clown and a stamp with picture of middle finger. I hoped they would just ban my account or something since that is about best I can hope. They would never abide by gdpr request and even if they say they did there is no way to know if they actually did.
I’m in the same boat. I have leftover PC parts to offload and Craigslist is shit and the Nextdoor app doesn’t have as much reach from what I can see.
Fediverse alternative to Facebook’s Marketplace
I recently deleted it since my friends finally decided to move on from messenger to… Instagram.
Progress is progress right? Anyway I’m not planning on ever using the marketplace so hopefully I will never need an account again.
that’s not progress, it is trend. in zero ways it is better.
it’s progress in the way that it’s not on a dead platform anymore and I need one less social media account
I cant comment on dead platform, but did you register on instagram for this reason, or was that an old account? in the former case you don’t have one less accounts. but then one could also argue whether deleting one meta service account and registering another makes a difference
no I already had Instagram
It’s funny because I created an IG a year or so ago and I don’t recall it asking these questions.
Edit: don’t ask me questions that require logging in as I don’t know my password
Ig and fb is kinda separated iirc, even when it all fall under Meta. So does Thread.
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Last time my buddy sent me a Facebook link, it wouldn’t let me view it without giving them my phone number. I did not.
You can scroll around a tiny bit vefore you are forced to make an account. This is good because it prevents new joiners.
Not on mobile I couldn’t. Full screen prompt for my phone number. No way out but to put it in or just close it.
Might be different for different styles of content.
It could be. It was a video.
Only on desktop, I believe
I cant view any of the info on events that use facebook since it blocks me after 1 page change and a bit of scroll on phone either.
I am shocked and apalled that there exist extentions that allow you to scrub ads from youtube but nobody has figured out how to access facebook without an account.
I’d imagine it’s far more difficult (and possibly illegal) to forcibly gain access to a website that denies access until you log in or register. Maybe there could be an extension that creates throwaway accounts for you to use, but I’m not aware of any myself.
I wonder if it’s possible to register a VOIP number for free and use it for Facebook. I haven’t tried it myself.
It would just be blocking a popup
I truly don’t know either way, but it would be laughable of them if the only thing that blocks unregistered users from loading more content is a pop-up. I’ve gotten through forced pop-ups with uBlock’s block element tool in the past.
Well, we are talking about a company that can’t make desktop messenger show message requests…
Discord does this for logging in from different places a lot which is bonkers to me how many people dont care about it, it doesnt even matter if you have TOTP 2FA activated, they still try to gaslight the need for phone number is for “security”
I quit facebook 10 years ago. I am 67. If this old fart can quit so can you.
Don’t make it easier for the american fascist government to identify you even further on Facebook.
Fb is nothing more than promoting right wing propaganda.
I am now, and will forever remain, a child of the old internet.
When your username was all that other people knew about you, and you didnt even like them having that for anonymity reasons, lol.
I continue to be baffled about how people on the internet went from “Don’t tell anyone, anything about you!” to "Hi My name is Dan Rutherford, I like at 5849 Blasse Rd, in Tarry Birch,Kenfucky. Heres a picture of myself, my wife, my children, and a list of everything expensive I have in the house. Also my childs bedroom window wont lock. Anyway, we’re going on a 3 week european vacation now! Expect hourly updates!
PS: Heres my birthday, and my childhood elementary school, where I was born, and the name of my childhood dog. In case anyone needs to answer my security questions"
