The march to Nazism takes another step

  • @RaptorBenn@lemmy.world
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    115 hours ago

    I think you should have to do an test to reproduce, or pass in high, something, before being able to have a kid. But its impossible to institute.

  • tarknassus
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    301 day ago

    Bold emphasis is mine

    But idea of offering** feral populations **financial incentives for voluntary sterilization is completely taboo.

    Wow, just wow.

    When a population gets feral, a little snip snip keeps things in control. Could offer incentives (Air Jordans, etc.).

    Sure… some new sneaks for never being able to procreate? Sounds legit (heavy /s obviously)

    I have a suspicion where this is being aimed at:

    It’s not politically correct to say, but low-IQ, low-impulse control populations lack higher reasoning and moral faculties - they require strict corporal punishment and threat of violence to function properly within a society.

    It’s the people RFK is targeting - people with Autism, ADHD, other neurodivergent conditions, the physically and mentally disabled. Cull the ones who are already “diseased” and leave the healthier ones to live one and procreate. At least that’s my suspicion here - basically they’re pushing the discourse towards an acceptance of some form of eugenics. It’s terrifying.

    The point in the last quote - ‘to function properly within a society’ is really a veiled form of saying - ‘you will work until you die in whatever way we see fit’.

    There’s a similar push in the UK to get disabled people into any job, seemingly regardless of suitability, workplace accommodations (despite there being legal requirements to make such things) - and the way this is being done is to effectively penalise them financially by sanctioning the disability allowances, refusing PIP (Personal Independence Payment) and forcing those with lifelong conditions to undergo a full review every year. This pretty much can starve out someone into finding a way to live that means the Government pays less and the quality of life the person has is drastically reduced owing to the various stressors inflicted on them. The whole thing is a shitshow and is being argued about a lot at the moment in our Government parties.

    Can disabled people work? For sure, and many do. Can all disabled people work? No, but the Government is going to make damn sure that you at least try, and if you fail, then find another job cause we ain’t supporting you now we know you can work regardless of how effective you are… From a Govt statement:

    We’re determined to fix the broken benefits system as part of our Plan for Change by reforming the welfare system and delivering proper support to help people get into work and get on at work, so we can get Britain working and deliver our ambition of an 80% employment rate.

    In other words, to “function properly within a society”.

  • @mcv@lemm.ee
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    101 day ago

    That’s going to cost them votes in the long run, if their base can’t reproduce.

  • Match!!
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    812 days ago

    One fucking month ago we, for the first time in human history, cured a genetic disease in a human at the DNA level, using gene editing techniques that fixed a 10-month-old’s liver specifically without altering the rest of his body’s DNA (thus preserving genetic diversity). Are we really going to start fucking genociding people while we stand at the very goddamn cusp of cleanly subduing genetic disorders?? And we’re going to fucking revive measles and polio while we’re at it?

    • @Frigid@lemmy.world
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      Frustrations aside, I hadn’t heard of that but damn that’s quite an awesome thing. Weird how you can have hope and despair for the future simultaneously.

    • @SabinStargem@lemmy.today
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      322 days ago

      IIRC, the Trump Regime defunded that research. The ghouls don’t understand that looking after everyday people is the key to figuring out cures for rich fuckers.

      Seriously, the wealthy don’t understand that they achieved their great height from standing on the backs of ordinary folks. They will take quite a tumble when society falls apart, due to their stupidity and greed.

      • Match!!
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        172 days ago

        Seriously, the wealthy don’t understand that they achieved their great height from standing on the backs of ordinary folks

        Oh no, they absolutely understand that, and if they have to they would stand on a pile of corpses rather than let their steppy stools get out from under them

    • @FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world
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      That’s probably a factor in their moves to bring back child labor, if your serfs keep dropping dead from easily fixed diseases you just need more workers for the mine and problem sorted. It’s both exciting to see the success we’ve had in science and terrifying to think of the future since they’re just straight up running the Nazi playbook again, last time they didn’t have access to CRISPR so things might get a lot worse in the eugenics chapter.

    • @ubergeek@lemmy.today
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      21 day ago

      And we’re going to fucking revive measles and polio while we’re at it?

      Yep. Thats the US right now.

  • @shaquilleoatmeal@lemm.ee
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    452 days ago

    Wait, wait, wait. I thought they were just bitching that we don’t have enough people, now they want mass sterilization? Can they make up their minds?

  • The irony. I bet most MAGA have sub-median IQ. But apart from that:

    That stance of mass-sterilization is quite a hefty turnaround from “people should have more children”, which we heard just a few months ago.

    I don’t want to be a doomer, but the economic prospects are bad. Lots of people already struggle to make end’s meet, and if the mass layoffs of white collar workers due to AI are real, it will be even worse. Notice that it doesn’t matter whether you think that AI can replace people, it only matters whether companies think that AI can replace people. Now, having children costs a lot of money, at least $100K, depending on where you live, and i understand people being reluctant about having children.

    I also think that it’s politician’s job to improve the living conditions of the people, and GOP might actually for once be doing its job if it starts educating people about the socio-economic implications of having kids.

    I also advocate for UBI (universal basic income), but the way i see it today, there’s a high likelyhood that it will come, but will be too little to actually cover cost-of-living costs. I.e., it might be a “support”, providing $400/month no-strings-attached and it would definitely improve the living conditions of many people, especially in low-income households. But it would still not solve all problems.

    • Chainweasel
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      1382 days ago

      I have a feeling they’re going to define anyone who has a college degree and leans anywhere to the left of conservative extremism “low IQ trash”.

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          I mean this is less of a “government funded” thing and more of a “you get it done or we cut your balls off ourselves”.

          And personally, I’m of the opinion that now that they want undesirable people sterilized, I won’t submit. The worst thing we can do right now is give them anything.

      • @ChexMax@lemmy.world
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        132 days ago

        Yeah, that’s why they’re trying to make questioning Trump’s greatness a mental disorder. So they can identify us as irredeemable to dispose of us

      • Granbo's Holy Hotrod
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        102 days ago

        Probably worse, enemies or the state. Anyone not in lock step will be put in a camp…prolly about a year out…stay safe

      • @frog_brawler@lemmy.world
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        42 days ago

        I read the article. He defined it as people that like the Fast and the Furious franchise.

        I’m not entirely opposed to his suggestion.

        • @sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works
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          He also attended a white nationalist rally that got him fired from his job as a Trump speech writer, suggested rewards for sterilization like “air jordans”, and a few more pieces that suggest he’s got a pretty easy way to determine who is “low iq” at a quick glance.

          He wants to euthanize non white people

          Edit: Sterilize, not euthanize. I’m sure he would hate to kill all of them

          • @frog_brawler@lemmy.world
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            He wants to *sterilize people, not euthanize (according to the article). Maybe he wants to euthanize some people too (likely) but that’s not what the article is about. Euthanasia =/= sterilization.

            “Third world low iq sucker punch fights over nothing, with dumb animal spectators jumping up and down in excitement,” said Beattie. “The same low-IQ trash who watch the fast and furious franchise. Beginning to wish the whole population reduction conspiracy were true.”

            He’s describing MMA fans, and people (in the USA) that watch fast and the furious… Remember (last month) when Mango Mussolini went to UFC in FL? …yea, he’s hating on the voter base that got him where he is.

            He wants to offer air jordans to people that volunteer for vasectomies… uh, they can keep the shoes, but I’m down for more people that cannot afford vasectomies or people without health insurance (there’s an abundance) to get them.

            I understand the story that this article is attempting to illustrate, but you’re conflating things. Also, I’d hardly consider the Independent as a reputable source.

            Also… I’m getting a little bit tired of outrage that has no output. So this week we’re surprised and outraged about another white nationalist in this administration?

            :: yawn::

        • @JasonDJ@lemmy.zip
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          32 days ago

          “Like” as in, present tense?

          I liked it as a kid but I think I outgrew it…so I guess I’m good?

          Doesn’t matter if you win by an inch or a mile…

          Ahh shit.

    • @jballs@sh.itjust.works
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      42 days ago

      Most of Trump’s base was probably cheering him on until he got to this part:

      “The same low-IQ trash who watch the fast and furious franchise.”