• kingthrillgore
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    I cared but I felt powerless to do anything besides donate to various charities helping the children of Palestine.

  • @jenesaisquoi@feddit.org
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    252 days ago

    The Swiss government knew as early as 1941. If we knew, the UK with their vastly better intelligence services definitely knew, and their allies probably too.

  • @sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    1492 days ago

    People did know about the genocide in WWII. They were flying planes over the camps. But when the soldiers arrived and took pictures the world learned the horrifying details.

      • @Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        It’s important to remember that the pictures shouldn’t matter, and that everyone, everywhere, was responsible for letting the Holocaust happen. Those that didn’t fight tooth and nail, of course.

        The world knew it was bad. They didn’t need pictures. They didn’t need Auschwitz. The information they had was bad enough. They had the proof in front of their eyes. They knew the fear. The St. Louis sailed in 1939 to the US coast with almost a thousand refugees with stories to tell. They were terrified, abused, and oppressed in Europe. But they were refused, and forced to sail home. 250 of them would die in the Holocaust.

        Jewish properties had been confiscated, synagogues and businesses burned down. After Feldman’s Polish father was arrested and deported to Poland her mother decided it was time to leave.

        Feldman remembers her father pleading with her mother to wait for him to return but her mother was adamant and always replied: “I have to take the girls away to safety.”

        […] Tearful relatives waved them off at the station in Berlin. “They knew we would never see each other again,” she says softly. “We were the lucky ones - we managed to get out.” She would never see her father or more than 30 other close family members again.

        By early 1939, the Nazis had closed most of Germany’s borders and many countries had imposed quotas limiting the number of Jewish refugees they would allow in.

        By early June, Captain Schroder had no option but to turn the giant liner back towards Europe. “The joy had gone out of everything,” Feldman recalls. “No-one was talking about what would happen now.”

        As the ship headed back across the Atlantic, six-year-old Granston kept asking his father whether they were going back to see their grandparents. His father just shook his head in silent despair.

        By then, people were openly crying as they wandered the ship - one passenger even slit his wrists and threw himself overboard out of sheer desperation. “If I close my eyes, I can still hear his shrieks and see the blood,” Granston says quietly.

        They shouldn’t have needed pictures. They shouldn’t have needed the horrible little details. They knew that people were suffering and dying. Earlier that same year - February, 1939 - the Nazis sold out Madison Square Garden. Over 20,000 people rallied in support.

        The world watched, as evil openly celebrated. The world watched, as hatred and fear were used as weapons against the innocent, and entire peoples were rounded up, forced from their homes, starved, and slowly but surely killed. Just because the information stopped at the gates of Auschwitz doesn’t mean they were blind to the horrors outside the camps.

        All that matters is that good men did nothing.

        • Detun3d
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          72 days ago

          Yes. From my understanding, and sadly very close to what seems to happen today, most people chose to either ignore, downplay or justify those horrific events.

      • @Charapaso@lemmy.world
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        61 day ago

        Why are you saying that is if it’s contradictory? I know that Russia invaded Ukraine. I can see the horrifying details by watching drone videos. I can know something generally without knowing the details

  • @throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works
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    Tbf there is a lot of money in propaganda. I don’t know how someone who grew up in some backwards-ass rural town/village in some hyper-conservative area in the deep south of the US is supposed to develop the critical thinking enough to look past fox news and actually do research. I’m not excusing them, but like, I understand why they don’t believe its happening.

    • @devils_advocate@sh.itjust.works
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      81 day ago
      • I know nothing

      • I don’t believe the information

      • I believe but don’t care. <— The US is around here

      • I care but I don’t act

      • I act but without effect

      • I act with effect

  • @kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zoneM
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    832 days ago

    They 100% knew about the Holocaust and as a Jewish person its extremely telling. Anyone who isnt actively calling out the genocide in Palestine is complicit.

  • @CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social
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    682 days ago

    Realistically I suspect what they’d actually say is just to deny that it ever happened, or worse, to claim that it was good or necessary or inevitable in some way.

  • @Commiunism@beehaw.org
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    152 days ago

    Honestly, does it even matter what genocide deniers or people who recognize the genocide say? There’s been a lot of discourse, international criminal court investigations, news coverage, protests about Gaza, yet European and American bourgeois governments kept sending billions to Israel and I highly doubt it’s due to lack of evidence or that they “didn’t know”.

    • macniel
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      92 days ago

      Netanyahu is wanted for crimes against humanity, and yet he is meeting with high ranking officials or even nation leaders…

      we all are complicit.

      • @Commiunism@beehaw.org
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        32 days ago

        I disagree that “we are all complicit”, as it’s the ruling bourgeois class that makes all of the decisions for funding/meetups and that’s who should be blamed, while the working class is largely powerless with the only ‘realistic’ resistance towards this geopoliticing being protests, which essentially is nothing more than begging.

        That’s the main point of my comment, and if there’s anything we as workers are truly guilty of, it’s failing to achieve workers liberation that would remove the need for a bourgeois government that helps maintain and strengthen a zionist state completely. Granted, it’s not for the lack of trying - liberals have been really good at violently suppressing and exhausting class conscious thought.

  • IninewCrow
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    152 days ago

    There is verified evidence of it.

    Even a body count of 50,000 dead so far and millions of displaced starving people who don’t have their homes any more. It’s been reported, documented, photographed, on video, eye witness accounts, verified by journalists, academics and politicians.

    We are all complicit at this point.

    In 50 years, the world will blame all of us who are alive now for letting this happen.

    • @grrgyle@slrpnk.net
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      21 day ago

      I can only imagine the confusion of someone in the future looking up my posting history around this time. How could we not have used every ounce of our strength to fight this?

    • @javiwhite@feddit.uk
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      42 days ago

      The meme isn’t about spreading awareness, it’s about denial. Denial would be the exact opposite of spreading awareness.

    • Rayquetzalcoatl
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      22 days ago

      I feel like you might have misread the text in the image? Otherwise I’m confused - the first guy in this image is denying that there’s a genocide at all, rather than spreading awareness or donating.

    • Cassa
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      Did you really write a comment because this meme used “wojacks” to get a point across?