• Boomer Humor Doomergod
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    267 days ago

    One of my guilty pleasures is watching horrible videos of people being removed from planes and arrested for being way too drunk.

    On airplanes what they do with someone who won’t leave their seat is get everyone off the plane, and then arrest the person at the gate as they leave, or drag them kicking and screaming from the plane.

    The fact that they wanted to show up in full CODBLOPS TACTICOOL GEAR for this shit is the most disturbing part.

    Drunk white women? Everyone gets off the plane and the Karen is hauled screaming.

    (What is likely a) Misdemeanor immigration violation?? We’re going in there like fucking Snake from Metal Gear.

    Shithole country.

    Shithole species.

    Shithole phylum.

    Embrace fungus.

  • @Gammelfisch@lemmy.world
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    167 days ago

    The night vision is one thing, but the obese US police officers wearing tactical/military gear is fucking worse.

  • @niktemadur@lemmy.world
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    97 days ago

    Some human monkeys will reach for higher goals, like knowledge and/or a truer sense of community to what we have.
    Some human monkeys will get mesmerized by shiny bling, which on an intellectual level is an equivalent to rubbing feces on themselves and flashing their teeth.

    There’s a painting from WWI, done by a German artist, can’t remember the name, but it’s like a portrait of your generic military general. You cannot see the body nor the face, it’s all covered in hundreds of meaningless badges and medals.
    We still see this bullshit today in any official picture from a Pyongyang parade, just look at the generals standing beside the “dear leader” or whatever they call him.

    These stunted mindless grunts on the airplane are a reflection of man’s failure to transcend the goddamned swamp from which we came.

    • ivanafterall ☑️
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      17 days ago

      which on an intellectual level is an equivalent to rubbing feces on themselves

      I just got a little stuck on this part, because wouldn’t the equivalent be people rubbing feces on themselves? I just mean that we can do that, too, is all.

  • Hikuro-93
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    It’s not about fighting for “my (twisted) view” of a fair world. It’s about me finally having the chance to act upon my wet dreams of power and cosplaying as the ‘badass’ image I always wanted to be, and how empowering it is to be able to pick on the weak.

    I bet you, these are only ‘cosplaying’ as elite soldiers fighting an imaginary war because cosplaying as superman or batman would be far too obvious and non-threatening in real life - seriously, who wouldn’t laugh at these clowns who think they’re serious shit? Otherwise you’d absolutely see the barely-laughable Justice League or the wannabe Avengers going down the street dishing out ‘justice’ cartoon-style.

    Peace and Justice are only as strong as the willingness to recognize and punish those who break the rules. If there’s no consequences for breaking the law all of those pretty values aren’t worth anything, and anarchy ensues.

  • @jaybone@lemmy.zip
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    1268 days ago

    Everyone is getting into these nuances (like, the goggles can be unclipped.) But if you know you are going on to a goddamn airplane, why would you wear any of this big bulky shit in the first place? You’re limiting your ability to move in a crowded space. You know he doesn’t have a gun because he went through TSA (because those guys are super accurate and professional, right?) so this “bad guy” could just start crawling over seats to try to get past you and get off the plane, meanwhile you’re stuck in the aisle like a turtle on its back with your Ya’ll Queso beer belly and all your big boy GI Joe gear.

    • M137
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      47 days ago

      It makes them feel powerful and cool, that’s it. They’re insecure, broken, pathetic, childish man-babies who need that gear to feel that they’re in charge. It’s not about what’s useful and logical, it’s about them psychologically needing it and also thinking it makes them look threatening.

    • @dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world
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      488 days ago

      It’s not just that. More people need to know about how escalation works. Yes, there’s a strong tactical advantage to being more prepared than your adversary. At the same time, you have to consider what the opposition will do to attack/defend when confronted with superior numbers, weapons, and body armor; they’ll likely try to match that force as much as they can. Since it’s a space filled with civillians, this ramps up the risk of the operation tremendously (e.g. take a hostage or get dissapeared). They would have done much better to dress like typical cops without all the tac gear. Yanno, de-escalating the situation rather than the opposite. The passengers on this plane should be pissed.

      • @FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world
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        388 days ago

        Remember when they mag dumped the UPS truck in FL and killed hostage, suspect, and bystander all at the same time? As long as they get to use their toys, anything approaching ROE or tactical plans beyond “shoot everyone and sort it out later” are just a waste of their time since no one penalizes the behavior.

      • KingJalopy
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        28 days ago

        Not enough bleach in the world to clean the shit off of those

  • @QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works
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    1108 days ago

    Serious question, what was the guy being arrested for where they needed to be armored but don’t have guns drawn on the supposedly dangerous criminal?

    • @merc@sh.itjust.works
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      117 days ago

      If there’s one place you don’t need to be armored, it’s arresting someone on a plane. Everyone has already been screened by security and even their nail clippers have been confiscated.

    • Sabata
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      638 days ago

      Need to make people fear dying or going to a death camp so they don’t interfere.

      • @Krauerking@lemy.lol
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        98 days ago

        Showing strength but claiming weakness to get more power to do further actions only they find excusable. Classic fascist.

    • @hello@retrolemmy.com
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      208 days ago

      You don’t dictate your outfit in the vast majority of military organizations, you just get told where to go and what to do.

  • @GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    638 days ago

    I have friends that served in Afghanistan, Iraq, and even some that volunteered in Ukraine, and each one, to a man, has said they didn’t have half the toys these tin soldiers carry while they were in an ACTIVE FUCKING WARZONE.

  • SomeAmateur
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    8 days ago

    Most cops have some kind of tactical gear kept in the trunk of their car. They don’t mess with it for each call they grab and go.

    I’d rather have them wear night vision for nothing than spend an extra 10 minutes fucking around in the parking lot to not.

    But I do agree with the main point of the post. Clothing plays a part in our psyche. If you dress sharp you’ll act sharp. If you dress slopply you’ll act sloppy. If you dress like a soldier you’ll act like one, and that usually isn’t what cops should be doing. Hammers seeing nails and all that.

    • @NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world
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      67 days ago

      Point blank, cops shouldn’t have swat gear or be treated as a paramilitary group. They’re supposed to protect and serve. Cops shouldn’t be a tactical force, they should be public servants.

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        I agree, however I could argue there are times when having a tactical force IS the public service. Not saying the pic posted would be one of those times though

        • @NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world
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          57 days ago

          Then send in a tactical unit for those situations that is specifically trained for the situation. We’ve seen how police handle those situations and I really don’t feel like escalation is the best approach for guys who can’t be bothered to do their job in the first place, let alone be properly trained and ready for a tactical de-escalation. Fuck off with the excuses for these fucking pigs.

          • SomeAmateur
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            Okay so ordinary police are out. You’re in charge of this new tactical unit, what does it look like? Where is the line between a ordinary response and a tactical response? What gear/technologies would they have as default and what would they have access to?

            I’m not trying to be a dick, I’m truly curious because if we want reform we have to have a goal to reach. Change is cool but change to what?

            • @NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world
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              57 days ago

              Police should be there to cordon off the area for a tactical response in these situations, then negotiators communicate while a properly trained and equipped tactical team prepares a response and infiltration plan with the intent of non lethal response and a contingency for lethal action if the perp escalates it to that level, this part would be something like snipers, who’s first priority would be observation, keeping watch until they get a signal. Planning would be situational, as there is no universal outline for these situations. The job of the police in a tactical response situation should be crowd control, everything else is above their expertise.

              • SomeAmateur
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                For a lot of stuff that would work I think. But it also sounds a lot like how they used to respond to active shooters back in the late 90s. Terrorists used to hijack or take hostages to negotiate political demands, not just try to kill people.

                So in that case that plan isn’t great when people are helpless inside while waiting on a tactical team. That’s why Uvalde caused such an outcry against the police response. They were crowd control when they had every chance to engage the shooter. You’re right, there’s no perfect plan for everything. I do think a negotiate/deescelate approach would be very helpful

                The way it currently works for departments around here is their SWAT guys do ordinary patrols but they have extra training and gear to respond to tactical stuff too. I wonder if we could do the same for the other side of the spectrum and have some officers with extra training as negotiators?

                • @NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world
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                  16 days ago

                  A state set up tactical response team that was trained and prepared for the situation solves that problem entirely. Less funding for militarized police and just transfer that funding to a tactical response outfit. You’re acting like doing something new is simply impossible when it’s realistically the only logical conclusion, the funding and supplies are there already it’s just being used on complete bullshit.

      • lechekaflan
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        17 days ago

        That was before the 1997 North Hollywood robbery, which changed all that.

          • lechekaflan
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            Tough changing things back to where they were – cops armed only with a pistol and a nightstick. Now they have to use all that gear and weaponry to up the intimidation factor and to make clear they mean business. Whether it’s a store robber on meth or a heavily armed group of narcos. It’s so worse now that some procedures have to be rewritten.

            I do not forget that the United States has the most firearms in private hands, more than any country.

            Where I come from, gun laws are very strict and the only people carrying heavy firearms other than military and police are either the few with special licenses, or stolen weapons used by bandits, separatists, and terrorists. So by consequence the police in my country are locked in an arms race against those outlaws, cops now equipped as much as the soldiers sometimes they have to work with.

    • flandish
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      i’d rather they not exist as a paramilitary arm of the state with a license to murder people. the same people they pretend have rights.

      • @Guidy@lemmy.world
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        58 days ago

        In this case both points are correct:

        That shit probably sucks to install and remove, and only SWAT should need it.

    • Muad'dib
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      328 days ago

      It always embarrassed Samuel Vimes when civilians tried to speak to him in what they thought was “policeman.” If it came to that, he hated thinking of them as civilians. What was a policeman, if not a civilian with a uniform and a badge? But they tended to use the term these days as a way of describing people who were not policemen. It was a dangerous habit: once policemen stopped being civilians the only other thing they could be was soldiers.

      • SomeAmateur
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        They do, but it’s cops so it might take them a minute lol. Other than speed taking off the nvgs also fucks with the balance of the helmet. The other stuff on the back acts as a counterweight. Still removable but still I bet they just wanted to grab and go

        • @ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          This. They’d have to pop off the counterweight too, especially if these are bump helmets not ballistic, which tbh 50/50 could be either.

          But why only two have ears? I’d rather have ears than nods, honestly! Weird choice.

          (It’s possible there’s just not enough pixels to see the last guy’s ears lmao)

  • @HowAbt2day@futurology.today
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    418 days ago

    IIRC that all the clothes they had because their regular gear got wet and the dry cycle hadn’t finished by the time they got called to the plane. The news I got also said they were wearing tactical gstring panties.