Rep. Mary Miller ― a Republican from Illinois who once praised Adolf Hitler ― wrote, edited and ultimately deleted a social media post decrying “a Muslim” speaking in Congress.
“It’s deeply troubling that a Muslim was allowed to lead prayer in the House of Representatives this morning. This should have never been allowed to happen,” she wrote Friday. “American was founded as a Christian nation, and I believe our government should reflect that truth. May God have mercy!”
The man leading the prayer was guest chaplain Giani Singh, a follower of the Sikh faith, not Islam. Miller’s Republican colleague Rep. Jeff Van Drew (N.J.) introduced him as such on Friday.
American was founded as a Christian nation
– Every American Christian Bigot
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof
– First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States
🤔
Don’t forget:
The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
– John Adams
Honestly who could say what they meant by that, it’s such an open to interpretation remark.
Good thing we know exactly what they meant in the second amendment.
Yes but they’re going to go extinct if we cut off their arms.
Those poor bears
The thing you have to realize is that some words change meaning over time. If you check a dictionary from the time, you’ll find that back then “regulated” meant… oh, looks like it meant the exact same thing it means today. Huh, looks like it’s meant the same thing since it was taken from Latin. Fancy that.
“As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion, as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religious or tranquility of Musselmen [Muslim peoples], and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan [Muslim] nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.” - Treaty of Tripoli, signed 1797.
You might also acquaint yourself with the actual religious beliefs of many founding fathers
I thought they were deists
Thomas Jefferson had his own personally edited version of the Bible that focused on the philosophies and stories in the Bible, and left out the supernatural mythology and fairy tales. There were parts of the religion he liked, but he was clearly uncomfortable with the actual religious parts of it.
And he actually WROTE the founding documents.
TJ was Deist, not Christian.
It literally says “Congress,” of which she is a member.
Every newly elected Congressional Rep and Senator should have to pass a difficult, graduate-level test on the history of the United States, and the Constitution, before being sworn into office. You can’t be sworn in until you pass the test. These people are tasked with leading our country. Knowing the basics is the least we can demand of them.
I’m with you in your frustration, but this only furthers a class of elites being eligible to govern. The test needs to be at a level that anyone going through compulsory education could pass. Eg 8th grade.
Additionally, I would do the test at candidate registration. There is no pass fail, but the electorate can decide if they’re qualified enough (as it’s the right of the electorate).
Maybe it doesn’t fix it fully but we can directly point to who is a moron, and who voted for said morons.
Valid suggestions. My suggestion was just a starting point, and yours offers some good adjustments. I worry the educational standards being different in all states may make it harder for those in some states to pass the test.
Besides, I don’t think we want some schlub off the street that barely knows an 8th grade level of history/civics running our country. I want people who take it seriously, and have sought further knowledge, education, and insight into the government. I don’t see anything wrong with experts managing the country. Part of the problem we have now is that we have evil morons whose entire political and historical education has come from the Conservative Propaganda Machine, and believe that Intolerance is a virtue.
I have always had a problem with the word “elites.” Somehow it has become a term of disparagement, often a dog whistle for Jews. Oxford dictionary defines it as:
a select group that is superior in terms of ability or qualities to the rest of a group or society.
Isn’t that who we want running our country?
Why the FUCK would I Care about the Constitution or Founders?
-Pro Life People who Defend MASS CHILD KILLERS because of the Second Amendment!
These dumbasses still have not figured out that the very first of the Ten Commandments and the Bill of Rights are in direct conflict, LOL. If they want a xtian nation, they should fuck off and move to the Vatican.
Disrespecting the religion seems to be fine with them though.
Well you see, the thing about conservatives is that they are fucking stupid.
And they celebrate their ignorance…
Trump loves the poorly educated, he said so himself. And they want daddy trump to love them.
America is fucked
That’s what he says to his reflection in the mirror every morning.
People of the land… you know… morons
Why is the common clay so common?
Well you see, the thing about conservatives is that they are fucking
stupidself-serving liars.FTFY
This bitch knows damn well America isn’t a “Christian nation,” but she’ll shout it from the rooftops if she thinks she can get away with it in order to advance her hateful, bigoted agenda.
Do. Not. Give. Her. Any. Benefit. Of. The. Doubt.
Well you see, the thing about conservatives is that they are fucking
stupid self-serving liarsevil.Fixed it for you. Some of the old school Republicans are that, true. But, this new Republican party adopted their sinister mindset because “god said so”. While a few of them are motivated by greed, this shit-fest is motivated by legitimate belief. Incidentally, this is the same minset that motivated the crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, the Salem witch trials, 9/11, and ISIS. Its a fundamentalist mindset where they can jusify evil in god’s name.
This bitch knows damn well America isn’t a “Christian nation,”
Maybe, or maybe she actually believes the lie. Or, maybe, she thinks it her mission to turn the United States into the holy land (ISIS thought the same thing about the middle east, and probably the world).
she’ll shout it from the rooftops if she thinks she can get away with it in order to advance her hateful, bigoted agenda.
Yep. She’s a true believer.
Counterpoint: none of the beliefs you mentioned, from the Crusades to the Inquisition, were ever “legitimate.” Evil is never legitimate, by definition.
The older Republicans of Limbaugh and Raegan?
Before that, who opposed civil rights?
The ones before that, who refused to hang the confederates after the war?
Never has the conservative in this country been not-evil, the moderate core is unable to give a fuck Amir anything but their own American dreams.
The older Republicans included guys Theodore Roosevelt or Eisenhower, the ones who wanted a small government that leaves you alone. They seem to have died off after Regan.
It’s deeply troubling that a Muslim was allowed to lead prayer in the House of Representatives this morning. This should have never been allowed to happen
I believe our government should reflect that truth.
She’s right: leading prayer in Congress at all should never be allowed. Government should reflect the truth of a secular government.
Yes. Government should be led by law not theology.
I’d say that you are spot on and people in the West who want to believe in strange middle east cults can do so quietly at home and not bother anyone with their hokey faith. That goes for Muslims, Jews, Christians and the rest of them.
This lady won with 73% of the vote in 2020, 71% in 2022, and unopposed in 2024. She is exactly what the people in that area want and that’s sad. The US is like social media. It’s not the platform it’s the users that make it garbage.
But the platform promotes garbage, too.
I mean, that’s also because the DNC stopped really giving a fuck about anything but corporate donors a long time ago.
Dumbfuck can’t even get her religions straight, and apparently she thinks America was founded to be a Christian theocracy. Astoundingly ignorant and misinformed, yet there she sits Congress, governing the nation with her 2 brain cells.
Her average constituent sees turban and thinks Muslim.
She represents her district in more ways than one.
She probably has no idea what Deism is.
I was going to make a “DEIsm is woke, DEIsm is getting abolished, etc” joke… But it’s impossible to create a parody so extreme that some users won’t mistake it for the genuine thing. Poe’s Law is in full effect here.
/s works wonders when text can’t transfer the needed nuance and no one knows you.
The people would likely think its a cult worshiping Dhalsim from Street Fighter 2.
And thus call for all Deists to be deported.
Poor Sikhs always catching strays…
Also, yo, I kind of hate this country.
“America was founded as a christian country”
You mean back when Christian people were so rabid that they thought of Catholics, the OG jesus folks, the way this lady sees any non-christian religion?
Maryland was created as the birthplace of religious freedom in this country specifically because catholics had nowhere else to go in the colonies without getting harassed. Ultimately, the concept of religious freedom would be elevated to a higher place of importance than christian snobbery by the time America was forming a country. Religious freedom was part of escaping the thumb of the King of England and other monarchs.
So, on the one hand, Miller is truly going old school by being a bigoted fuckhead. But on the other, she seems to have no idea that “America” would not exist if people hadnt been willing to tell the bigoted majority of protestants to shut the fuck up, and force them to live and let live
Pepperidge farms remembers when bigots were shamed away from talking not their target minorities.
What a cunt.
Ignorant cunt at that. Calling this a Christian nation is a joke to anyone who isn’t a fascist hoping to use religion as a bludgeon.
Yet another Sikh man misidentified as a Muslim (not that it would matter if they were) by some backwood dumb fuck using weaponized religion.
Surprise twist: He redirected all your Christian prayers to Waheguru and you’re all now an additional cycle away from Mukti.
Why does the House of Representatives even have prayer in the mornings to begin with?
Because 'Murica
I would like to know the actual answer to this. When did it start? Has it been there from the beginning?
Because the foundation of US instritutions was largely Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V from Westminster, where morning prayers are the only time MPs are allowed to come and reserve a seat for the rest of the day. It’s probably a lot more attended in the American version though.
Once again, I am asking the British to stop fucking up governments worldwide
The British government has been functional since the civil war over 370 years ago. If there are functional issues with the US system, (and there are, to the point it actually shuts down sometimes) that’s their own meddling and the warranty is void.
The US was founded as a secular state… No getting around that. There were only a few devout christians in the original group of founding fathers. Most were deist. They had the recent memory of the thirty years wars where catholic and protestant armies had rampaged back and forth across Europe stealing the peoples food. Raping and burning out anyone who wouldn’t convert. They did this to many who did convert. It was said at the time that they everyone kept two sets of bibles. They just hid one or the other depending on who had taken over at the time. That asshole regressive wouldn’t ever be willing to admit that. Because she is too stupid to learn it.
A secular nation shouldn’t be having in house prayers from any denomination.
if we want to keep it secular, we need to make christians fear for their lives.
I would take it one step further and say they (founding fathers) were possibly even atheists, or at the extreme, very agnostic theists with the idea that IF god does exist, he doesn’t care or bother about us (which of course is deism). It would have been very unpopular back then to say god doesn’t exist, so deism was a step in that direction. Just my theory.
In some cases sure. Hamilton was very religious. He was also tolerant of other. The main consensus among the founding fathers was tolerance of differing beliefs. Something these ignorant fools today never learnt or most probably ignore.
Today’s reactionaries hate the (actual) American project as much as Tories way back when did.
They hate it with every fiber of their being. All their rhetoric about “America first” and the flag-waving and the pearl-clutching over “the troops”…all performative bullshit. They hate liberal democracy, they hate the Constitution, they hate the rule of law, and they hate freedom.
Very true.
Mary Miller represents district 15 which surrounds but does not include both Springfield and St. Louis. It is 90% white, 2.9% black, and 2.8% Hispanic. There are basically no non-Republican elected officials above the county level and voted overwhelmingly for Trump. This district became home of the second resurgence of the KKK in Illinois in the 1920s and has stayed their home through resurgences in the 1950s and 1990s.
One of the most insufferable people I have ever known lives in her district. He moved there willingly because of politics. I cut ties entirely over a year ago and it’s been great.
I almost feel less bald for it. (A lie.)
I hate Illinois Nazis.
Illinois redistricted recently and it was gerrymandered to fuck to make sure that her district was absolutely backwoods conservative as possible. It practically ensures Illinois will swing blue for the next decade. She’s unfortunately my representative, but I’ll live with that reality knowing that my existence as her constituent pisses her off and Illinois stays blue.
It was founded as a secular nation you dumb cunt.
Then why is a chaplain leading prayer in Congress? A secular nation wouldn’t even have opening prayers at any branch of government.
Because religious zealots have infiltrated and subverted our government into something barely recognizable. Separation of church and state is a vital part of the US constitution, it’s quite sad to see that forgotten or ignored by our supposed “leaders” in Congress in order to appease radical religious fundamentalists.
My face when I found out the US has opening prayers in the house of government:
Seperation of… What was it again? logic and reason?
Money and fools.
(We’re the fools, they get the money.)
Yeah, that’s the really fucked up part of all of this. Being a USian, I knew this kind of thing, though.
This Karen is just miffed that xtianity is not given maximum unwarranted special privileges: “oh, we’ll allow you people who have not opted in to our chosen lifestyle to exist (for now), but at every opportunity, we’ll rub your noses in it that we think our chosen lifestyle’s adherents are special little snowflakes that deserve praise for their lifestyle, and use the government to do it.”
Do you not? And if so help, I’m stuck on a continent filled with nutjobs
These racist politician assholes should never ever be allowed to represent us in government.
Apparently she’s exactly who her constituents want representing them. Take it up with those arseholes.
