Zendaya was great in spiderman but she’s the absolute worst choice for chani. Her “too cool for school” sarcastic persona doesn’t fit with a primitive tribal religious fanatic at all.
She’s a sassy, rebellious New Yorker, when Chani is mature, strong and feminine AF. Just because they’re 15 doesn’t mean they’re supposed to be played like any Western “f u mom!” kid… Denis really dropped the ball there, but he’s more of visual director than a storyteller, I guess.
She’s a sassy, rebellious New Yorker
I’m pretty sure she’s from California? Unless you’re being metaphorical or something.
Since when does Spider-Man takes place in California?
They got confused and thought they were talking about actual Zendaya.
Since he found out he can web-sling from palm tree to palm tree.
To non US people who aren’t exposed to the same celebrity overexposure (unless it’s by choice) and have no particular opinion on Zendaya, she’s ok. Haven’t seen part 2 though.
It’s not celebrity overexposure in my case. I like Zendaya, I’m not tired of her and would like to see her in more stuff. I just think she was the wrong actress to play chani.
It’s a relief then that Dune is one of the dumbest fucking stories of all time and casting doesn’t matter.
Ō great maker, subsume this guy right here into the sands.
I’m curious what you think the greatest story ever is. I hope it’s not The Bible.
Ironic comment, since Dune’s story is supernatural nonsense written by a misogynistic homophobe who probably does think the Bible is the greatest book of all time.
I’d not looked into Frank before now, but I’ve read 2.5 of the dune books. It’s weird to see he was a self described conservative and libertarian. The whole dune story seems to mock everything he stands for politically. It’s like he was completely unaware of the power structures he was writing about exist across all US (and non-US) political parties.
The story glorifies a eugenically engineered monarchy and waxes poetic about the evils of homosexuality.
Yeah, but that isn’t why people like it. Like Harry potter and Wizarding world of the transphobe.
You expressed surprise that Herbert is a rabid conservative. I pointed out that the book you claim to like is a celebration of fascism.
Yeah, but that isn’t why people like it.
Correct. People like Dune because it’s the biggest book they’ve read, not because they were paying attention to the prose or narrative quality of its insane plot.
It seems like you really don’t like it. What makes you say that?
Although the movies are better than the books, the actual story is spectacularly awful. Have you ever had someone try to explain it to you? It’s unhinged. And the book is so poorly written from a literary perspective. Dune is Twilight for Gen-X’ers.
Frank Herbert is such a narcissist he actually accused Star Wars of ripping him off.
This is just a sad take. The writing is brilliantly grounded in reality for a fantastical story. It’s fricken weird AF, but many of us are here for that. It’s not for everyone, and that’s okay if you don’t like it, but calling it poorly written is infantile.
I’ve noticed a lot of infantile and absurdly maximalist takes on Lemmy lately. it’s kind of souring me on the project.
The Reddit spillover effect is noticable
the Human Project? understandable, really.
I actually really like the story of Dune, but I kind of have to agree that the writing leaves a lot to be desired. The fact that Herbert constantly switches perspectives with no indication in the middle of chapters, or sometimes even in the middle of paragraphs, drives me up the wall. I almost couldn’t finish them because of that.
So, just some advice, avoid Tales of the Malazan Book of the Fallen at all costs. I’m totally okay with not being spoon fed every detail of what’s happening as I read, but that’s not for everyone either. I first read them when I was a teen some 30 years ago and never found it hard to keep track of anything. I was too eager to find out what was going to happen next! The whole story is flush with character nuance so I could usually grasp who was saying/thinking what once things got going
If you think Dune is well-written, wait until you read a modern sci-fi novel. The shittiest space opera would probably blow your mind.
I have. I like em too. I don’t neglect what came before because there is something new.
deleted by creator
Don’t you mean boomers. Dune was published in 1965.
Yes, but the book also became really popular among the Gen X crowd, whose hunger for sci fi was fueled by things like Star Wars.
I agree. Really dumb stuff. Certainly not watching the Villeneuve movies for the plot. Cults, royalty, magic, psychic powers, people turning into worms, guiding star travel via ESP…geez
Isn’t Chani a non-believer in the movie, at least at first?
Even if she is, she was raised in the same culture as stilgar and the others
I was raised in a deeply conservative fanatically religious culture and I put out a sarcastic and “too cool for school” energy a lot of the time. What do you think counterculture is? I remember in the movie she’s got a whole social circle of people who are on the same page as her.
Personally I think Zendaya plays Chani pretty well, and her character doesn’t feel out of place to me.
You had access to a counter culture, though. All the fremen know is other fremen and maybe the occasional harkkonen. I appreciate what you’re saying, but I still feel like it doesn’t seem organic in context.
Wtf. Who thinks so much about people who they don’t even know?
Those who consider themselves White Knights in a Shiny Armour. We have too many of them thinking that only they know how things should be and that only they are bearers of the ideal moral codex.
Surely, you’ve heard of “tabloids”?
They earn money off of it. This guy probably doesn’t
I’m pretty sure their point is tabloids exist because there’s a market of thousands if not millions of people that want to know about and think about people they don’t know, such as this guy.
Yes, thank you. For some reason, I’m always surprised when trying to be evocative backfires into misunderstanding.
You know how some jobs give you homework to demonstrate capability? This is part of his interview/onboarding for said tabloids.
Don’t call me Shirley
The edit to make “Surely” bold is the icing on the cake.
Today, only the literate suffer, and that applies to the recent Dune adaptations as well…
Educate an old and out of touch person please:
Is anus licking standard practice now? Is this presumed as obvious currently?
I wouldn’t say standard, however I tongue punched a few fart boxs and I swore I never would.
Then one day a girl with an ass so fine comes strutting her way into your life that changes everything, so who am I to say no?
Such exquisite poetry, I’ve seldom heard before. I’m going to get this comment printed and framed.
I’m confused. Who is supposed to enjoy it, the licker or the lickee? It just seems like a nasty experience for everyone involved, especially with the enema I would require to get near the poop hole with my tongue.
Both parties enjoy it, in my experience.
I’m very clean and so is my partner. I’ve eaten their ass after a rave before, it ain’t no big thang
Anus licking is what holding hands used to be
Anal is now first base.
Hold up. “Anal” is not the same as “licking ass”.
It kind of is though. Any ass licking is technically anal sex because it is sex that involves the anus, but not all anal sex involves ass licking.
Depends on how long their tongue is.
I remember when it was common knowledge that you never go ass to mouth… time are a’ changing.
There was a time when oral sex was considered atypical and deviant. Same with anal sex. So it’s understandable that “the norm” might change quite rapidly.
I think that’s what they call “puppygirl”
Maybe the OOP just assumed it’s “standard” for pretty and famous people they’d do all the things in the sack.
No
- Who are they talking about?
- I hope they never get a partner because who know where their lips have been too
(Thinking through that last one they probably want a “pure” virgin)
Since you missed it, let me explain the joke. Ahem: Kylie Jenner is a despicable billionaire who exploits poor girls for money. Touching anything that she has touched, including a hot guy, is disgusting. That’s the joke.
Timothee Chalamet is in a relationship with Kylie Jenner. The character Zendaya plays in Dune kisses Timothee’s character.
