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A fairer comparison would be Eliza vs ChatGPT.
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Its because of all the people saying that LLMs can reason and think and the human brain works just like an LLM and… some other ridiculous claim.
This shows some limitations on LLMs.
Human brains lose to computerized chess all the time, though. So I guess this is a win for AI tech bros?
Why the special qualifier of “computerized” chess? Do humans regularly lose to Atari’s at chess? LLMs are computerized too.
It depends on the human.
I’d wager children would lose quite often.
I meant a specialized application, like the Atari one that beat the LLM.
But humans not trained (made) for chess would make stupid mistakes too
Why are so many people mad when it’s pointed out that the shitty chatbots are just shitty chatbots.
I knew there would be these kinds of comments making this obvious point. This is just a demo of how these language models are not going to achieve the “General” part of AGI. It’s going to take a new paradigm
Now apply this to like, everything else ever.
Machine designed to convincingly fake human internet conversation sucks at ____________!
ChatGPT can’t make a rug as well as a 300 year old loom.
Too many people forget that specialized, purpose-driven software is often if more effective and efficient. LLMs and other AI are nice when you don’t have a properly defined spec or a flexible algorithm but you pay, literally, for the convenience.
40 year old machine designed to play chess*
I think people in the replies acting fake surprised are missing the point.
it is important news, because many people see LLMs as black boxes of superintelligence (almost as if that’s what they’re being marketed as!)
you and i know that’s bullshit, but the students asking chatgpt to solve their math homework instead of using wolfram alpha doesn’t.
so yes, it is important to demonstrate that this “artificial intelligence” is so much not an intelligence that it’s getting beaten by 1979 software on 1977 hardware
A chess-specific algorithm beat a language model at chess. Shocking!
Try training a chess model. Actually I think it’s already been done, machines have been consistently better at chess than humans for a while now.
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It’s AI, not AGI. LLM’s are good at generating language just like chess engines are good at chess. ChatGPT doesn’t have the capability to keep track of all the pieces on the board.
They’re literally selling to credulous investors that AGI is around the corner, when this and to a lesser extent Large Action Models is the only viable product they’ve got. It’s just a demo of how far they are from their promises
Is there a link where I could see them making these claims myself? This is something I’ve only heard from AI critics, but never directly from the AI companies themselves. I wouldn’t be surprised if they did, but I’ve just never seen them say it outright.
“We are now confident we know how to build AGI as we have traditionally understood it. We believe that, in 2025, we may see the first AI agents “join the workforce” and materially change the output of companies” https://blog.samaltman.com/reflections
“We fully intend that Gemini will be the very first AGI” https://venturebeat.com/ai/at-google-i-o-sergey-brin-makes-surprise-appearance-and-declares-google-will-build-the-first-agi/
“If you define AGI (artificial general intelligence) as smarter than the smartest human, I think it’s probably next year, within two years” -Elon Musk https://www.reuters.com/technology/teslas-musk-predicts-ai-will-be-smarter-than-smartest-human-next-year-2024-04-08/
Thanks.
Well, I don’t think OpenAI knows how to build AGI, so that’s false. Otherwise, Sam’s statement there is technically correct, but kind of misleading - he talks about AGI and then, in the next sentence, switches back to AI.
Sergey’s claim that they will achieve AGI before 2030 could turn out to be true, but again, he couldn’t possibly know that. I’m sure it’s their intention, but that’s different from reality.
Elon’s statement doesn’t even make sense. I’ve never heard anyone define AGI like that. A thirteen-year-old with an IQ of 85 is generally intelligent. Being smarter than the smartest human definitely qualifies as AGI, but that’s just a weird bar. General intelligence isn’t about how smart something is - it’s about whether it can apply its intelligence across multiple unrelated fields.
LLMs would be great as an interface to more specialized machine learning programs in a combined platform. We need AI to perform tasks humans aren’t capable of instead of replacing them.
This is useful for dispelling the hype around ChatGPT and for demonstrating the limits of general purpose LLMs.
But that’s about it. This is not a “win” for old school game engines vs new ones. Stockfish uses deep reinforcement learning and is one of the strongest chess engines in the world.
EDIT: what would be actually interesting would be to see if GPT could be fine-tuned to play chess. Which is something many people have been doing: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=finetune+gpt+chess
In other news, my toaster absolutely wrecked my T.V. at making toast.
How did alpha go do?