• @lefixxx@lemmy.world
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    Yeah I remember once when my friends Synology started acting harmful when he run jellyfin on it. it started off gasing mustard gas. It poisoned the well and made his son addicted to zyns. All of the cars in his neighborhood needed new batteries. The country’s GTP dropped a lot that month and the ozone layer is gone. Thank God YouTube stopped platforming such harmful content. Too bad so luch damage has already been done.

  • Jim
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    1216 days ago

    I think a few folks haven’t read the article or know who Jeff Geerling is. The title of this article is confusing.

    Jeff posted a video on YT about how to self-host your own media in 2024. He recently got a violation from YT that YT considers his video to be harmful and dangerous. He appealed, got denied, but then the update is that YT removed the violation.

    • @hietsu@sopuli.xyz
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      245 days ago

      Saw the video… It mentions ”ripping” and even shows clips of some blockbuster movies. No wonder any copyright-sensitive automation gets triggered pretty fast. This will only get worse.

      • fmstrat
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        None of that is illegal. He states he purchased the media. And it’s certainly not harmful content.

        • @hietsu@sopuli.xyz
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          11 day ago

          You recon the copyright mafia cares much about what’s illegal or not? Google has played ball with them for years and slowly sided with them more and more. It’s all about the ad money and google wanting to keep the big players happy. All things related to ”owning content” in this era of just renting is going to get flagged. Ripping, selfhosting, torrenting, data hoarding…whatever undermines the content monopoly.

      • @dieTasse@feddit.org
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        64 days ago

        I think if the ripping includes de-DRM-ing it’s is illegal in a lot of countries. I am not saying it’s right, we should own our own content, I am just saying it as a fact.

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          Yeah isn’t that crazy?

          Copyright by itself only protects distribution but then laws like DMCA (US) and EUCA (EU) make drm removal illegal. Its hard to believe that these laws exist and should be opposed at every possible opportunity.

          Can you imagine buying an ebook and being told you can’t remove malware from some strings of text or you’ll go to prison? Also you have no consumer protections like refunds or ability to pass down the license so you’re literally have worse consumer rights than a physical product and digital data costs nothing!

          The current copyright framework is so broken and so toxic it needs to be completely destroyed.

          • @dieTasse@feddit.org
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            33 days ago

            Yeah, totally agree. You know, I would perhaps be even ok keeping the drm, I have been thinking about it the other day. I would have to have a guarantee that I can use it even 50 years from now and it would have to be public, open-source solution, not owned but shaity companies like Adobe, Apple and Amazon (there is really no choice nowadays), who will use this to also track us. Plus, as you say, I want to have a right to pass it onto someone (but more like lend it to a friend, because I can’t imagine somebody caring about inheriting my 50 year old books, really. About the refunds, I think some online stores offer (limited time) refunds and if you buy e.g. physical book, especially in the physical store, you are also very limited when it comes to returns.

            • Dr. Moose
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              23 days ago

              What really triggers me is that digital products that are significantly cheaper, easier and safer (environment etc) than physical counterparts have significantly worse rights and protections.

              Even if I agreed with the idea of copyright the economical implementation is so absurd.

      • Lka1988
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        54 days ago

        What if I decide to digitize my entire movie catalog? I would have to rip those DVDs and blurays…

          • TonyOstrich
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            54 days ago

            But it is legal in the country he lives in as well as the country YouTube is headquartered in.

            • @Schlemmy@lemmy.ml
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              24 days ago

              Is it? I’m not totally sure, as I’m not from the US but I think the DMCA is the nasty player in this game.

              • TonyOstrich
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                34 days ago

                Technically I’m half right and half wrong (I think). It’s not illegal to backup media that one owns, but it is illegal to break DRM/copy protection which is required to rip most physical media these days.

                Suffice to say the legality of it is a cluster fuck, but the morality, in my opinion, is pretty clear. Fuck the corpos.

                • @Schlemmy@lemmy.ml
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                  Yeah fuck them.

                  Nearly all digital media is locked so in order to back up something you own you’ll have to break the lock. Fuck. Them. (And the people who voted for these laws)

          • @couldbealeotard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            44 days ago

            A lot of people don’t realise that the application of the VCR was technically copyright infringement, especially so when you lent tapes to your friends.

        • @hietsu@sopuli.xyz
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          55 days ago

          ”Pretty fast” after they tuned those automations to the current setting. And they will keep turning it that way unfortunately.

  • drkt
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    736 days ago

    It says (updated) but what is the update?

    • @Brkdncr@lemmy.world
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      Update (one day later):

      YouTube has just reinstated the video, after what I presume is a human review process. I wish it didn’t take making noise on socials to get past the ‘AI deny’ process :(

      Go forth, and self-host all the things! I’ll post further updates in this issue in my YouTube project.

      • Meldrik
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        306 days ago

        Go forth, and self-host all the things!

        He means self-hosting as in hosting his own PeerTube instance? Right??? 🙏

          • Meldrik
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            95 days ago

            Yes, he says he’s dependent on the ad revenue. However, no one is asking for him to drop YouTube. Also posting on PeerTube will simply have him reach more viewers. It won’t move viewers away from YouTube.

            • @Auli@lemmy.ca
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              People don’t pay. They say they would but they don’t. So we are stuck with YouTube and ads. I know people complaint about them but what is the alternative. People have to eat.

              And yes I block ads I don’t care but I understand why they are needed. And for some reason most don’t block them.

    • @non_burglar@lemmy.world
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      766 days ago

      YouTube restored the video, but not until Jeff had made a huge stink about it (and rightfully so, those yt fuckers can eat a dick).

      • melroy
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        I hate youtube so much. When are they moving all to freetube peertube or something? How long do we all accept Google youtube?

        • @non_burglar@lemmy.world
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          125 days ago

          They’re the 800lb gorilla, and no other platform can create “youtuber” income, so it’s a real problem for people like Jeff Geerling to move from yt, even if they know it’s bad, because it’s a major part or all of their income.

        • Buelldozer
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          126 days ago

          When are they moving all to freetube or something?

          Unless I’m missing something Freetube is a client. So it wouldn’t be Jeff moving to freetube it would be you using freetube to watch his content on YT.

          I’m guessing you meant peertube instead of freetube and your answer there is “When they can get paid.” Making content takes time and costs money and YT pays creators like Jeff for doing it.

          I dislike YT alot but there’s financial decisions at play here that can’t really be argued with.

          • melroy
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            Ah yes peertube. There it goes wrong already. The name is too much alike.

          • ada
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            It’s not one or the other though. Peertube with patreon can exist alongside YouTube

            • @stephen01king@lemmy.zip
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              Patreon is just one source of income. Ad revenue is another. Its good to have more than one source if you wanna make a living with it.

      • irotsoma
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        95 days ago

        Yeah, and it was a one off restore, so others who are mentioning self hosting will still be taken down as long as that policy remains.

        • @non_burglar@lemmy.world
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          I agree.

          I will add, however, that Jeff’s main concern isn’t the policy itself, but that he and other youtubers can’t see it or know what the rules are. The lack of transparency is the real issue.

    • @BroBot9000@lemmy.world
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      Yes cause they can’t sell you a subscription for your mp3 player.

      Fucking rent seeking behaviour from corporate parasites.

        • Bags
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          Costco bought RAC in a stunning buyout in 2437 after Costco’s CEO Harambe Memelord Disney Jr. offered RAC’s CEO Squiggy John John John John Johnson a 2-for 1 deluxe latte coupon and an extra big-ass fry.

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      Correct, if you ain’t streaming from corpo, you are denying them engagement and profits

      That’s a crime, shit Lord

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      MP3 players aren’t bad, they’re just mostly obsolete when smartphones can do the same thing and we mostly already have one.

      I like to keep several GB of music on my phone from my MP3 library, and I have no streaming music accounts. I pay once for my music at most.

          • @atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works
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            I think you might be misremembering; the original iPhone had YouTube, maps (though it lacked a GPS for whatever reason), a camera, Safari, and even a primitive HTML based App Store that paved the way for modern PWAs. Games like Bejeweled were available months before iOS 2.0 came with the App Store.

            The Moto ROKR was an iPod that made calls.

            • @Colloidal@programming.dev
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              You’re right. It was released almost at the same time as the 1st gen iPod touch, and that iPod ran the same OS as the iPhone (then named iPhone OS). I thought the iPod touch came before, it didn’t. The iPod classic was significantly different from the iPhone.

    • @MotoAsh@lemmy.world
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      Google has been mask off since they removed “don’t be evil” as their slogan, and they’ve been proving it ever since. Apparently people don’t pay attention!