Last week, top ICE officials ordered officers to increase arrests and to get “creative” in their methods, including trying to nab people the officers happen to encounter in what are known as “collateral arrests.” The orders come in the wake of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem and White House deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller setting a quota of 3,000 immigration arrests per day, along with a sharp rise in protests against the crackdown.
In Westbury, the HSI agents didn’t respond to the gathered crowd. After a few minutes, the agents drove away. A commotion erupted down the road, off-camera, and onlookers began rushing toward the corner.
One of the Nissans, carrying two of the HSI agents, had crashed into a black pickup truck that happened to be passing through the intersection. Three eyewitnesses told The Intercept that the agents’ car had sped away. Two of the witnesses believe the Nissan blew a stop sign, causing the crash. (Nassau County police referred questions about the accident to ICE, which did not respond to an inquiry.)
ICE really does seem like the new SS. As a European it’s scary as fuck to watch the world’s most powerful state turn fascist.
As an American, the scariest part is how little most seem to care about it. Well, that and the fascism.
“That could never happen here!” — Most Americans.
“It might be happening here, but its only happening to the bad guys!”
Try being an American citizen with a history degree. I know where this leads, and I’m terrified.
I feel like my history teachers tried to warn us about this, but they couldn’t say it directly and most of us didn’t take the hint.
“Does history repeat itself?”
“Those who don’t learn from history are destined to repeat it.”
What they’re really trying to get their students thinking is “do we learn from history?” And the answer is a big, fat, fuck no.
Okay but have you considered that you’re being a shrill alarmist commie?
Actually, I have considered that, wanting to avoid being the same kind of victim of partisan propaganda as stupid Conservatives. This is especially important to me, as I have been an Unaffiliated Independent since first registering to vote in 1977. It important to me to not succumb to the propaganda of either side.
My self-reflection has determined to my personal satisfaction that I am not shrill, I’m not an alarmist, and I’m not a commie. I have a history degree, 30 years of professional experience, and have closely watched the rise of extremist Conservatism since the mid-80s, so I am very comfortable offering my opinions with confidence. I don’t worry about acceptance from MAGA Nazi Traitors. I couldn’t care less about their treasonous, shallow, ignorant, violent, political opinions.
My education, knowledge, and experience has led me to believe that we are facing a divide in America as bad as the Civil War, and very possibly worse. The MAGAs are clearly taking their strategies from the Nazi Germany Playbook, and want to murder vast swathes of Americans. To recognize and warn others about it is not shrill, alarmist, or “commie,” and it is not lost on me that you are attempting to shame me into silence.
It won’t work. Indies like me aren’t afraid in the least of Cowardly Nazi Traitors like you. We know what you are up to, and we will stop you.
To see the Canadian government start pushing bills on immigration that are similar to those put in place to allow all this to happen in the US is terrifying as well. We voted in hopes of fending off this fascist takeover and yet here we are with Drumpfkins next door and our own “left” cooking the country.
The citizens of the world are under fire everywhere from fascism and even Nazism. We all need to stand up and fight back no matter where we live.
I was always facist if you weren’t white or straight
I really hope that’s a typo
I’m workshopping banners for the next RNC convention
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Masks just being ripped off left and right!
I’m thinking that if ICE et al keeps this up, pretty soon random people are gonna start taking sneaky potshots at them. Amongst many, many other things, these dipshits are actively making their own jobs wildly more dangerous.
One can only hope.
That would bring the military into our communities even quicker. Seems like a very bad idea.
The military is already in our communities dummy
The only bad idea is sitting back and just complaining online.
Yeah. Useless fucks.
Sniping ICE agents would make things much worse much more quickly.
Maybe the progression of violence is inevitable, but once you start killing pigs, it will all happen very quickly.
The progression of violence has been enacted by the government for decades… Sitting around waiting is just letting them put on the cuffs before fighting back. https://lemmy.world/post/31339564
Look man, I am a protesting, pro-physical intervention, pro-whatever it takes leftist. All I’m saying is random people shooting at ICE is going to end protest and resistance, and begin the part where the government shoots and kills protestors and resistance on sight.
If you think that’s the best plan, that’s fine. I do not. I think there is more that needs to happen before the shooting starts.
I own many guns. I practice with them. I have thousands of rounds of ammunition. When the government starts shooting people, I will decide if I’m ready to die to protect my family and community.
But I’m not gonna kill myself and dozens of others by foolishly “taking a pot shot” at these fucking nazis.
When the government starts shooting people??? 🤦What caliber is required for it to count as shooting? Ballistic missile???
https://lemmy.world/post/31091610/17560200 https://lemmy.world/post/6839427
Once again this is nothing new, been only getting worse my entire life.
Enjoy the fascists they’ll only keep winning with folks like this so proud of themselves.
Alright man. Stay safe out there.
If you’re afraid of attacking their person, then attack their property.
We can all work together to make sure ICE agents don’t get nice suburban houses that aren’t covered in eggs and toilet paper.
We can all work together to make sure their tires don’t have air in them as often as possible.
much worse
Also much better. And they’re goinh to get worse if you do nothing, too.
Oh shit, yeah. Can’t have the military in our communities.
checks outside that would be even wirse than those guys in camo and modern gear holding rifles stranding around. The grey painted armored vehivles with doohickeys on the roof. Much less scary than having the military in my community.
100%. We should be encouraging them without identifying them.
I wanna work for ice so I can be the dude that leaks the raids.
It’s an effective tactic that conservatives have been employing for decades.
The reason they hate schools so much is because they can’t infiltrate them. They can’t infiltrate them because they’re genuinely too stupid to compete in academia, and even the ruling class recognizes how an effective educational system is needed to maintain their dominance.
This is acceptable.
Can’t spell bitches without ICE.
Melt the ICE.
So, Imma go back to my philosophy 101 argument structure days. Fill in the blank.
Premise 1. Racists should never feel safe being racists. Premise 2. Nobody willingly becomes an ICE agent without being a racist. Conclusion: Therefore, … ?
ICE should never feel safe, at any time, ever again. Make them NEED marines and NG cover every time they go out for one of their abduction raids.
Make waiting too long to quit the job ruin their lives, and the lives of anyone around them.
Anyone who fucks them, serves them coffee, gives them a loan, treats their injuries, or rents them a room at a coffin hotel, should be made to regret it.
Sooo Federal officers get to flee scenes, guess insurance doesn’t matter anymore.
No place for fascism in NY!
As somebody from Western NY, this made me happy to read
She gave them an arrest quota of 3,000 a day. Jesus christ
Steven Miller is apparently having screaming meltdowns about how more and more and more “immigrants” must be arrested/deported. Miller is likely the person who is actually our acting president right now with Trump as a chaotic front to keep people distracted from this.
Stephen “PeeWee Himmler” Miller has far too much power. He is HitlerPig’s
WormtailWormtongue, whispering poison in his ear. He’s hidden in the shadows for far too long like the creepy lizard he is. It’s time to focus on him, assign his atrocities to him, and start attacking him. He needs to be run out of the administration and the government.Edit: Sorry, got my fantasy bad guys mixed up.
Not suprising, they already did a hit and run on a cyclist and pedestrian in LA.
Hoping no real people were injured.
Kristi Noem is a sorry excuse for a human being and that’s putting it nicely.
Their ‘collateral arrests’ game is going to get the plain clothed ICE agents killed. Don’t blame the public when it happens. Blame the Border Czar.
Would really love to see pics of their tattoos when this happens. Im sure they’re interesting.
So they cover their faces but drive their own cars? Or am I missing something?
it’s not clear from the except whether the nissan was a personal or federal vehicle (and I’m not clicking through more than one screen of cookies/adblock nonsense to read the rest of it)
Do we know if they aren’t just deputized proud boys?
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a federal car that wasn’t Ford, Chevrolet, or Dodge, you know, American brands. I mean there has to be some but I haven’t seen one.
I dont think the cars are externally marked.
I wonder if ICE agents are paid a lot more than those people would be in other jobs having the same qualifications/experience etc, and that’s the reason why they stay on. Or some massive perks or something. Why isn’t there a mass exodus of ICE agents leaving? Or maybe there is and it’s not reported? There must be some attraction?
I’m pretty much convinced they recruited all these thugs from alt-right groups and disgraced ex-police in the last few months. They don’t have uniforms or badges. They wear face masks and refuse to identify themselves. They needed a bunch of guys that had no problem with being cruel and hateful and they were right there ready to step up.
They have to. Where else would so many new ones come from? So many who are so unaware of rights and laws?
yea these are most likely the same people who formed their own local militias and jerked off to fantasies of shooting protesters.
They probably just walk around downtown and recruit from whomever has a cut-off shirt and a swastika tattoo
The massive perk is that they get to be cruel bastards and hate for a living.
You only agree to work for ICE if you’re a psychopath in the first place.
When people start shooting these Nazis you’ll see the rats leave the sinking ship rapidly.
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The ingredients in this cocktail A Molotov cocktail has three main components:
A casing. This is usually made of glass, in order to hold and store the fuel, but shatter upon impact in order to release it. Alcohol bottles are commonly seen in media, but Spaniards in their civil war were known for using jam jars. Fuel. This can be alcohol, kerosene, napalm, gasoline (petrol), or other compounds that are flammable. Again, in media, we typically see alcohol being used, but there are better choices (more on that below). A fuse, wick, or some other method for ignition. This could be a rag or other absorbent material stuffed into the opening of the casing, but it could also be wind-proof matches, or a mixture of chemicals that, when combined with chemicals inside the casing, will spontaneously ignite. All three of these components can be fairly easily obtained by civilians, hence the popularity of the Molotov.
Common mistakes when mixing a Molotov One of the big challenges with homemade Molotov cocktails is that they cannot be instantly used, or stored long-term; you need to light the fuse right before you’re going to use it. It’s like a grenade, but instead of just pulling a pin, you have to carry a lighter.
In the design most commonly seen in the media, the fuse is a piece of cloth, stuffed into the neck of a bottle. This rag soaks up the flammable liquid.
Note that Molotovs don’t explode on their own! That soaked rag doesn’t carry the fire down into the bottle, but rather ignites the liquid once it splashes, when the bottle breaks.
Because of this, it is important to ensure that the rag is stuffed tightly into the neck of the bottle, so that extra liquid won’t dribble out! Otherwise, when the rag is lit, there’s a risk of spilling flammable liquid on the user.
The wick also should not be very long! Again, remember that the wick is just a way to transfer fire to the target, along with the liquid. You only need a wick that’s an inch or two long.
Another challenge is selecting the right fuel. There are upsides and downsides to each:
Alcohol will burn well, but must be at a high proof or concentration; you can’t use regular 80 proof vodka. You’ll need to use at least 100 proof, ideally something even stronger, like Everclear. Gasoline will burn strongly, but won’t last long, so you get a big fireball but then nothing. The best fuels are mixed with a thickener; the Finns used gasoline mixed with roofing tar to create a form of napalm that lasted longer and stuck to targets. Finally, it’s important to select the right casing. You’re throwing a glass bottle, which needs to be tough enough to stay intact while you’re handling it, but also fragile enough to break when it hits the target.
Unlike a grenade, nothing in the Molotov actually makes it “explode”, aside from the kinetic energy when it hits the target. Some tips:
Don’t use a Molotov against a soft target. If you throw a Molotov at a bush, it won’t break, and you’ll just look silly. Many bottles, such as wine or champagne bottles, are designed to not break when they are dropped. They are generally too thick/sturdy to work for a Molotov. Some guides recommend scoring the bottles with a glass cutter or knife, in order to better ensure that they fully break when they hit. Throw overhand, like chucking a tomahawk or throwing axe. This can be tough, depending on fuse positioning, but gives greater range. The Finns eventually found that, instead of stuffing a rag into the open neck of a bottle, it was easier to strap a weatherproof match to the outside of the bottle, light it, and then throw the sealed bottle with burning match. This also ensures that nothing ignites prematurely or drips out.
If you’re protesting against something, and someone whips out a Molotov, be prepared for the police or forces on the other side to respond in kind. A Molotov is deadly, and it will elicit deadly force to be used by the other side.
Finally, every bit of using a Molotov is dangerous. You’re holding a flame, right next to a bottle of very flammable liquid. Drop it by accident? Fumble the throw? Have someone shoot or smack it out of your hands? There’s a very good chance you’ll set yourself on fire.
Remember, a Molotov does not explode like a bomb; a good cocktail has a tight seal between the internal mixture and the outside flame! A good Molotov has a tightly sealed bottle, but one that is fragile enough to break when it impacts a target.
Despite what we see on television, most alcohols won’t be concentrated or high-proof enough to burn. Actual Molotovs are usually made with gasoline or kerosene.
Historical nitpick just because of history and not for any nefarious reason.
You mention a rag stuffed into the bottle. This is inaccurate to what the Finnish, who invented the device, did.
A rag stuffed into a bottle is easily snuffed out, and the user of the device risks spilling flammable liquid on themselves when throwing the device.
The fins, historically, tied a rag around the neck of a bottle that was sealed. The rag was exposed to air and can burn steadily, and the sealed bottle makes handling much safer. When thrown, the bottle or jar will still break and spread the liquid, and the steadily burning rag will ignite them.
Do with this knowledge what you will.
And always remember that Hollywood has a legal interest in showing you non viable ways of making destructive devices. Always think about the most practical way to do something, regardless of how you’ve seen it in movies.
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Styrofoam is a good thickener, depending on your fuel source.
what might also work is balloons filled with paint, thrown against the windshield of their vehicles. does no permanent damages, but makes it difficult to leave the area hastily.
Yknow I’ve been thinking about riot police with shields njunk. Would be a shame if they got covered and wrapped in a big sticky blob
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