• albert180
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          104 days ago

          AF447 was pilot error and not cheapening out knowingly on the construction to save money.

          The whole Boeing 737 is completely outdated and wouldn’t get approved today. Like they would have needed a new pilot warning system for years, but are just rolling by with exemptions after exemption

          • @SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz
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            24 days ago

            AF447 is sometimes blamed on lack of coupled sidesticks amongst other possible deficiencies in aircraft design. Pilot error doesn’t happen in a vacuum.

            Certainly not the same situation as the 737, though.

    • @nevm@lemmy.ml
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      94 days ago

      As someone said on another thread, “If it’s on a Boeing, I’m not going”

    • Captain Aggravated
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      54 days ago

      They did before they took under McDonald Douglas. Ever since McD-D bought Boeing with Boeing’s money it’s been downhill.

      • Exactly - when McDonnell Douglas “reverse-merged” with Boeing in 97, the corporate culture shifted from engineering-first to finance-first, and we’re seeing the consquences of that prioritization now with all these safety issues.

        • Captain Aggravated
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          24 days ago

          “Hey, you know those executives that decided to do the whole DC-10 cargo door that almost killed one airplane full of passengers and then DID kill another one? Let’s put those sister groping fuck knuckles in charge.”

      • @FlexibleToast@lemmy.world
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        154 days ago

        They almost became Boeing. Boeing basically asked congress to tariff the Bombardier C series so hard that nobody would import it. Congress responded by introducing a tariff even higher than what Boeing asked for. Airbus had a manufacturing plant in the US and made a deal with Bombardier to build the C series there to avoid the tariff. That’s how the A220 came into existence. Initially it was selling so well that Boeing looked into buying Embraer to have competition in the regional jet market.

        • @kcuf@lemmy.world
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          24 days ago

          The a220 is really nice to ride in (though weird size with air Canada running them in a 2-3 layout). The engines are apparently a nightmare, but last I heard we’re now seeing similar issues with pw’s non-geared engines too, so everything is fucked.

          • @FlexibleToast@lemmy.world
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            44 days ago

            It’s a nice plane, but it’s likely at a dead end. It was designed to be stretched and reach into the territory of the A320 and Boeing 737. Airbus doesn’t really have an incentive to stretch it for a couple reasons. It would cut into their A320 sales which is selling like crazy right now. It also has a different cockpit layout to other Airbus aircraft so it’s harder to cross train pilots from an A220 to other Airbus aircraft. Bombardier built a good plane, but the US Congress screwed them to protect Boeing.

            • @kcuf@lemmy.world
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              14 days ago

              That sucks. It was a nicer ride than any a320 variant I’ve been in recently. Though they’ve all been very old planes now that I think about it…

  • Solano
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    154 days ago

    Gee, I wonder why, when Boeing is crashing and burning, literally and figuratively.

  • Mr Poletski
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    54 days ago

    Boeing should start building their planes out of rubber and change their name to Boing.

  • @ollie@sh.itjust.works
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    55 days ago

    Yeah but the article is kinda general, it just rides the recent crash wave to bash Boink boink. We don’t know why the 787 crashed yet, we should wait at least for the prelim report, see if it’s manufacturing issue or maintenance issue. I do see Boeing struggling, hope Ortberg can pull shit around before next ceo reverts it back.

    • sunzu2
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      54 days ago

      Killing whistle blowers will sour people on your brand