Was curious why they described them as awkward
If you haven’t heard much about Obama’s comments, there’s a reason for that. He chose to deliver them at an event at which audio and video recordings were prohibited. If the idea was to disseminate this clarion call to the broader public, it was a weird choice of venues.
Obama never uttered the word “Trump” once. Throughout his remarks, it was clear what he was talking about. But he opted for broad generalities rather than specifics about who and what are threatening democracy.
It seems possible to me he wanted to address people who are involved in our government moreso that the public, but 🤷♂️
Obama’s calling out the entire corrupt government without name-calling or saying something dumb like it’s only Trump. CNN just has to criticize something, even if it’s wrong and destructive.
No he a fucking coward that help setup the police state we are under. Remember it was under Obama that he bailed out the banks, Snowden came out and told us that our own government was spying on us. What Obama do about that but go after Snowden for treason. And last deported more people then Trump. So he no fucking people hero.
more than that, Obama had enough of a public mandate, he could have rolled back everything Bush did. The Afghanistan invasion, the extraordinary rendition, the “enhanced interrogation”, the P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act. He could have ended all of those.
He could have had a historic presidency, could have redefined what the United States was going to be in the 21st century. Instead, he let the previous administration decide it for him.
he could have rolled back everything Bush did. The Afghanistan invasion, the extraordinary rendition, the “enhanced interrogation”, the P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act. He could have ended all of those.
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The USA was already heavily bogged down in Afghanistan when Obama took office. He could not have simple pulled out. Look at all the shit Biden took when he did after involvement had already been scaled back.
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Obama did end torture at Guantanamo.
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American Presidents don’t have the power to repeal laws.
Obama wasn’t perfect—not even great. But, those are weird things to lay on him.
They renewed the PATRIOT act while Obama was in office.
“Bogged down” is an excuse. The military is a logistics machine. If it takes longer to pull out, then it takes longer, fine. But “bogged down” is the kind of half-asses face saving language you trot out when you don’t actually want to leave, but don’t want to look like you gung-ho for staying.
Obama wasn’t perfect—not even great. But, those are weird things to lay on him.
yeah, yeah, fuck me for remembering what he campaigned on, right?
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Yeah his whole hope and change was a lie. Never did like him and damn sure didn’t vote for him. I just knew from the beginning he was full of shit. Even his Obama care was a Republican plan he pushed on us. Especially when he removed the public option.
Yeah, I wasn’t trying to argue he’s a hero, just attempting to interpret the event and his choice to make these comments at an event with no recording
It seems possible to me he wanted to address people who are involved in our government moreso that the public,
If that’s the case, well that’s awkward as fuck. The Democratic tendency to pretend their constituents only exist during election season is what got America is, and it’s not getting America out of it.
Your election season is 2 years long and is somehow measured by how much money is spent reaching voters.
It is absolutely normal when not campaigning to work with people who can actually effect change, particularly if the masses seem more intent on vying for virality of their protest sign selfies and not upsetting anyone rather than actually resisting fascism.
Half the time I think when American liberals say they want to “resist fascism” I think they understand that to mean that they’re fighting the urge to actively take part in it.
Your election season is 2 years long and is somehow measured by how much money is spent reaching voters.
Their election season, I’m watching from the other side of the world and find this as absurd as you do.
It is absolutely normal when not campaigning to work with people who can actually effect change,
The only thing the Democrats can do in America’s Republican-controlled government is stall and obstruct, and they’ve clearly proven they don’t intend to do even that. Are you even keeping up with this stuff? The only antifascist actor with the ability to effect change here is the people, so by your own logic he should be working with civil society and grassroots resistance organizations, not the ineffectual beyond help Democrat leadership. And in the first place America is in the middle of a fascist takeover—what makes you think anything about this situation is normal?
particularly if the masses seem more intent on vying for virality of their protest sign selfies and not upsetting anyone rather than actually resisting fascism.
This holds true even more for the Democrat leadership than it does for the rank and file. In the immortal words of Democratic consultant James Carville: “it’s time for Democrats to embark on the most daring political maneuver in the history of our party: roll over and play dead.”
If the masses are more intent on vying for virality of their protest sign selfies, the DNC is flat out not doing anything. American liberals’ ineffectuality was inherited from their leadership, not the other way around. If the leaders change, enough rank and file will follow to maybe get something done. I mean hell, the Democrats were out there condemning “protestor violence” during the LA protests and supporting the exact “peaceful protest” that you’re saying doesn’t accomplish shit. These guys are hopeless; at least the masses can be radicalized with the right influence and events, influence such as the words of Barack fucking Obama. I mean don’t get me wrong all my criticism of the Democratic leadership also applies to Obama so I wasn’t expecting him to get off his ass or anything, but it should be remembered that he’s not acting not because he can’t or there’s a better play, but because he doesn’t want to.
You just had to tell him to his face that he’ll never be president, didn’t you?
If you’re trying to please the critics in this thread, you’re wasting your time. You could set up a whole Union of Socialist Republics and they’d say you were leaving too large of a carbon footprint while doing it.
