• Axum
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    If anyone is wondering the connection:

    This guy had internships at the Heritage Foundation and did some service as a special assistant in a DHS immigration office.

    Heritage foundation strikes again with installing young puppets.

  • Stern
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    213 days ago

    More concerned with the 22 then what he was doing at 17. I’m not against younger blood in leadership roles but you got to have done the job at least somewhat. If the guy was 35 or so and had been at it for a decade, that’d be a different beast. This feels like a nepo hire

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      Not necessarily a nepo hire, but they are scraping the barrel.

      Project 2025’s playbook was to fire all the existing people in the federal government and replace them with Trump loyalists. To that end, they created a list of pre-vetted replacements.

      Problem is, those people are vetted for loyalty first, and competence a distant second. Also, a lot of them likely have jobs already that are more lucrative than a federal position. In other cases, their circumstances change in the months in between vetting and the offer becoming concrete. So even though they may have a few thousand people on the list, a big chunk of them aren’t going to accept when the time comes. Those that do aren’t necessarily going to be qualified in any way.

      What may be surprising here is that they’re scraping the bottom so quickly. You’d think out of several thousand possibilities, they could find someone more qualified than this guy.

      This tends to be destructive in the short term, because incompetent people are making important decisions. In the long term, it’s one of the self-defeating factors of fascism. A system just can’t work this way, but it can destroy the rest of society before it implodes on itself.

  • @But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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    514 days ago

    Stop using people’s work history at menial Jobs as way to attack them. Aoc was a bartender. All you’re doing is being an elitist.

    His past work as a gardener or grocery store worker shouldn’t be the headline here. Looking down at the working class is a dick move no matter who you are.

    I’m sure this guy has plenty of stupid and his leanings aren’t good. But don’t attack him for being working class

    • Kühlschrank
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      I mean being 22 and having that work history is pretty relevant. How else are they going to make the case that he’s nowhere near qualified enough for the position?

      • @Ledericas@lemm.ee
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        33 days ago

        hes also a NEPO-baby, and with something like HF, i wouldnt call someone like that as having a work history.

    • @SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works
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      I would not hire this person as a repair technician based on that resume. Am I discriminating? Yes, in the same sense that all hiring discriminates for skills and experience.

      I would never hire someone like this for risk analysis, risk abatement, or political communications.

      How is this not completely fucking obvious to everyone?

      Kakistocracy

    • @HowAbt2day@futurology.today
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      234 days ago

      Unless that’s his entire CV because at 22 yo, because what could he have done to merit such a critical role in the government?

      All work dignifies but not all work prepares you for nation impacting decisions.

    • @RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world
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      63 days ago

      If he were the assistant director, or anything that’s not a key leadership role, that might be true. But an agency head should have an appropriate resume and experience.

    • @OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca
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      54 days ago

      Exactly. And if he’s 22 now, 5 years ago he was 17. Lots of teenagers have menial jobs in high school to get some cash. There’s nothing wrong with that.

      • @ayyy@sh.itjust.works
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        234 days ago

        There’s nothing wrong with having absolutely zero experience with something and then becoming in charge of it for one of the largest countries on earth?

        • @YesButActuallyMaybe@lemmy.ca
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          Nah sounds good 👍maybe give a convicted felon a chance to turn his life around?

          But let’s be real for a angstrom second here: both are DEI hires

  • @Buske@lemmy.world
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    93 days ago

    I feel like… Were caveman smarter than us? Feel like they would of solved this long ago.

    • @ouRKaoS@lemmy.today
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      33 days ago

      I feel that someone with a large, heavy club could solve a few of our issues. Caveman tactics still work!

  • @Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world
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    334 days ago

    22-Year-Old

    Obvious lack of experience and not qualified for the position.

    Ex-Gardener and Grocery Store Assistant

    Completely irrelevant, and not something to criticize. God forbid people get a shit starter job when they’re joining the work force.

    • @Toga65@lemmy.world
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      173 days ago

      Listing previous work is pretty standard when getting a job, also shows his prior qualifications which I think we’re entitled to know.

      • @Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world
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        153 days ago

        The lack of experience is worthy of criticism; but the “Ex-Gardener and Grocery Store Assistant” is presented as not worthy of respect. Which is bullshit.

        It has the same air as some trumpanzee dipshit trying to insult AOC by calling her a ‘bartender’, as though having been a bartender makes her unqualified for her current position, which is similarly bullshit.

        Gardeners, store assistants, and bartenders all contribute to our society and shouldn’t be looked down on for their role; nor should that role be held against them when they decide to move on to something else.

        …I guess my point is that gardening and entry-level-grocery are completely fine and expected experience for a 22 year old; but that no 22 year old could have the experience to do well as a leader in terror prevention. So, there’s a distinction between criticizing the absence of experience (justified), vs criticizing someone for having actual experience in an unrelated field (bullshit).

        • @P00ptart@lemmy.world
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          103 days ago

          AOC isn’t 22. So where did he get experience to run such a department at 22 with no relevant job? No leadership, no military, no geopolical, nothing. It’s like me leading an agency about anime. My knowledge of anime ends at the point that I know it exists. At 22 you can only get experience with terrorism by being military. Even if you’re a rigorous and studious person, there’s no way you can understand terrorism unless you’ve dealt with it personally.

          For example, most of the suicide bomb attacks in Iraq weren’t psychotic religious extremists. Most of them were pressured by the actual terrorists. They would kidnap or threaten their families to make them do it. Others were poor, destitute individuals who were promised that upon completion of their “mission” that their family would be rewarded with a large payout. This isn’t uncommon even in the West. It gets underreported because in the West it usually manifests in a different way. My own grandpa repeatedly expressed concerns of not leaving his family enough before he took his own life and he tested rockets for NASA.so it’s not exclusive to the Middle East to hold your family above yourself.

          That level of understanding of the motive simply doesn’t exist at 22, especially if you’ve never left the states. If you want to stop something, literally anything, you have to understand WHY it’s happening. I don’t wrench on my engine when the brakes are locked up, because I understand how the machine works. Terrorism is far more complicated than a vehicle, and it’s an absolute requirement to have experience in it to understand it. It isn’t the age, it’s the experience.

            • @Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world
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              23 days ago

              I must have worded something stupid in my initial post here - half the ‘retorts’ here have just restated the post I made. Or, tried to make?

              Normally on Lemmy I wouldn’t get this much pushback for saying that being a gardener or w/e isn’t something to shit on.

              I’d be willing to bet most everyone in this conversation is 99% on the same page, but some dumb miscommunication has us bashing heads.

            • @P00ptart@lemmy.world
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              73 days ago

              I’m not, AOC had some life behind her when she was elected. This dude doesn’t. And wasn’t elected.

              • @faythofdragons@slrpnk.net
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                43 days ago

                I’mma quote from the post you responded to, maybe you can help me see what I’m missing.

                …I guess my point is that gardening and entry-level-grocery are completely fine and expected experience for a 22 year old; but that no 22 year old could have the experience to do well as a leader in terror prevention. So, there’s a distinction between criticizing the absence of experience (justified), vs criticizing someone for having actual experience in an unrelated field (bullshit).

                Where does your argument contradict that?

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          If this story was this:

          Ex Gardner and grocery store assistant tapped to become retail manager at H&M, no one, yourself included, would bat an eye.

          The only reason it even sticks out is because everyone inherently knows those things are not relevant at all to the position.

          Any negative spin on those things you are ascribing yourself.

          The combination of being 22 with only those jobs as relevant experience is bad. Very bad.

          Those jobs in and of themselves are fine. We are all capable of nuance. I don’t hate gardeners or grocery store workers, they’re all generally great.

        • @Cocopanda@lemmy.world
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          I’m in between work from layoffs. I started at a grocery store because i needed healthcare and it’s a union job. It’s shit work. And I exhausting. But by no means is it disrespectful work. Who the fuck is going to feed everyone?

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            33 days ago

            The problem here is that it’s irrelevant experience. It’s absolutely a respectable job, but that doesn’t make you capable of leading a task force. I have a respectable job, I’ve never been involved in the film industry at all, beyond watching. So should I be the CEO of universal? Do you think by working at a grocery store makes you capable of farming?

              • @P00ptart@lemmy.world
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                Also, as a former bartender, there is a lot of politics involved in that job. You’re in charge of a bunch of (hopefully temporary) morons. There’s risk assessment and mediation happening, controlling a bunch of people who are adverse to rules and being told no. Geopolitics isn’t that far from breaking up a fight in a bar. But he doesn’t have any of that comparable experience.

    • @Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      123 days ago

      The rise from starter job to top government official usually includes things like gaining experience, having some success, being a noteworthy professional in some way…

      Not… Nothing?

    • @P00ptart@lemmy.world
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      133 days ago

      There’s a reason that the minimum age to run for president is 35. But rules and regulations don’t matter anymore.

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      33 days ago

      I’m 23 and just got promoted to head of the IT department and even I don’t think I’m qualified to be here

  • @AJ1@lemmy.ca
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    434 days ago

    it’s inspiring that in the states you can be a convicted felon, and/or just a totally unqualified moron with no experience in any sort of political office (see: POTUS) and get a high profile position in the federal government. america truly is the land of opportunity