• @rsuri@lemmy.world
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    It’s like everyone’s opinion is “my tribe is always right and deserves all the sympathy, the other tribe is always wrong and deserves all the suffering”. No one cares about solutions or examining why a conflict has persisted for 80 years. Humans are so predictable.

    • @Blackmist@feddit.uk
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      262 years ago

      It’s not even “my tribe”.

      Hardly anyone posting here is Israeli or Palestinian. It’s just distracting nonsense to divide us. Pick a side plebs. Look, those people have picked the other side. Hate them!

      • @Madison420@lemmy.world
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        To be fair it isn’t the Israeli or Palestinian population is their governments. The populations are just sorta a second thought given both seem to be majority against it.

      • @FaeDrifter@midwest.social
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        Friendly reminder that a defining characteristic of a fascist is drawing hard in-group out-group lines.

        (And another is the fetishization and glorification of violence against the out-group)

              • @lolcatnip@reddthat.com
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                Ah yes, the “I have a black friend” defense.

                I have Jewish friends, so I trust you won’t call me antisemitic for saying Israel is structurally racist and authoritarian.

                • make -j8
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                  I just shown you a highly placed Arab state worker. show me a Jewish in West Bank, mind you?

                  • @lolcatnip@reddthat.com
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                    Why would a Jew choose to live in the West Bank when there’s a much more pleasant country next door offering them citizenship? Your analogy is so flawed I have a hard time thinking you’re making it in good faith.

                  • @T00l_shed@lemmy.world
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                    Wasn’t Hitlers physician at one point a Jewish person? I don’t think one example is really all that telling.

                • @letsgocrazy@lemm.ee
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                  If you have a Jewish friends then you really aren’t anti semitic are you?

                  Such a smooth brain comment.

                  Not to mention a huge amount of Israelis themselves criticise the current government and what it’s done.

            • @JohnDoe@lemmy.myserv.one
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              Wish there was common nomenclature for referring to posters or parts of a comment to make the context clearer. Friends say I am on the spectrum but the Psychologist said that doesn’t seem to be the case.

              Like, OP1 is lame, OP2 supports genocide, etc. to clarify within a thread without having to quote or @ which I find a bit clumsy and generally gets in the way of flow.

              • @FaeDrifter@midwest.social
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                32 years ago

                This sounds like a great idea!

                I’ll clarify, I’m just putting out a reminder that being fascist is not an inherent trait, like green eyes or dark skin. Literally anyone can fall into the trap of fascist thinking. The only way to be truly anti-fascist is to recognize the warning signs in your own thoughts and worldview.

                So centrism can sometimes be a trap, but don’t demonize the practice of seeing both sides. Taking a hard line with one sides is a step on the path to becoming a fascist.

                • @WoahWoah@lemmy.world
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                  The irony of this post after looking at your comment history honestly hurts. Thumbs up though!! Much liked.

                  • @FaeDrifter@midwest.social
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                    22 years ago

                    For sure I think Nazis and Tankies are both gross, and I have a kind of out-group bias against them, but I never advocate for violence against them.

                    Except maybe punching Nazis, but nothing serious damaging or life threatening.

    • @Rakonat@lemmy.world
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      62 years ago

      I wish two groups of people determined to kill each other could take it away from the civilian population, to say nothing of using human shields and attacking irrespective of potential collateral damage and non combatant deaths

      • @lolcatnip@reddthat.com
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        72 years ago

        More like two groups of people determined to kill civilian populations. Keeping it away from civilians would defeat the whole purpose.

    • I think it’s older than 80 years. I recall reading about old men spitting at each other over rights to fuck the prettiest goat in Mesopotamia way before Churchill took a shit.

    • @WoahWoah@lemmy.world
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      “It’s like all everyone does is point at problems instead of gesturing at solutions. What is wrong with all these idiots? It is so predictable. See me gesturing? Please like me.”

    • Ann Archy
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      42 years ago

      Humans are manipulable, especially in large numbers. Humans are violent, but not irrational. It takes convincing for that.

        • Karyoplasma
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          Individually, humans are erratic, not irrational. Seeing action without reason is very rare, the thing is that the reason that lead them is often flawed. Group dynamics are a whole different beast tho, they could be described as irrational.

    • cannache
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      32 years ago

      No, we’re finding new ways to commit familicide though!