My brother in Christ, the comment you’re responding to literally says “the war in Ukraine is still anyone’s game.” How do you read that and come to the conclusion that OP considers everything except total victory for Ukraine to be a Russian talking point?
Oh it is always you with these. Hey I will freely admit I should pay more attention to who people are because Lemmy is small enough. Acting all big city in a small town like an ass.
I think it’s more likely some sort of logical fallacy. If I said, “Seems like everything is Chinese propaganda except for talk of reduced inflation and the economy doing better” it would mean discussion of lower unemployment, or an American fashion trend, or the President’s dog, are all automatically Chinese propaganda, when they’re either neutral or positive stories on unrelated matters.
So you’ve established unreasonable requirements for the discussion, and a false absolutism.
Well that is what I am trying to identify here: It doesn’t seem like there are reasonable requirements for discussion on the war in Ukraine. The immediate “Fuck off, Tankie” response is pretty ubiquitous. Where does one even begin?
Albeit, soyjacks are never a great foundation for discussion, so that is on me, sure. I don’t think this was a call for discussion, more the opposite. So successful bait I guess.
There really isn’t anything to be said outside of unlimited military aid and total victory for Ukraine that isn’t seen as a ‘tankie’ position is there?
Seems like everything is a Russian talking point unless it is total victory and unlimited military aid for Ukraine.
Pretty limiting.
My brother in Christ, the comment you’re responding to literally says “the war in Ukraine is still anyone’s game.” How do you read that and come to the conclusion that OP considers everything except total victory for Ukraine to be a Russian talking point?
ZombiFrancis is a concern troll. That’s all. They do this all the time.
Oh it is always you with these. Hey I will freely admit I should pay more attention to who people are because Lemmy is small enough. Acting all big city in a small town like an ass.
Could save some heartache all round.
I really don’t think bringing up, let alone discussing, Ukrainian defeat would be responded to less harshly.
That’d be the clown face’s final form wouldn’t it?
Don’t you have tankies to defend somewhere else?
Oh was that a Russian talking point?
I think it’s more likely some sort of logical fallacy. If I said, “Seems like everything is Chinese propaganda except for talk of reduced inflation and the economy doing better” it would mean discussion of lower unemployment, or an American fashion trend, or the President’s dog, are all automatically Chinese propaganda, when they’re either neutral or positive stories on unrelated matters.
So you’ve established unreasonable requirements for the discussion, and a false absolutism.
Well that is what I am trying to identify here: It doesn’t seem like there are reasonable requirements for discussion on the war in Ukraine. The immediate “Fuck off, Tankie” response is pretty ubiquitous. Where does one even begin?
Albeit, soyjacks are never a great foundation for discussion, so that is on me, sure. I don’t think this was a call for discussion, more the opposite. So successful bait I guess.
No, just the kind of concern trolling you pull everywhere you go, conveniently always in defense of popular tankie positions. So kindly fuck off.
There really isn’t anything to be said outside of unlimited military aid and total victory for Ukraine that isn’t seen as a ‘tankie’ position is there?
Like I said - you can fuck off with your concern trolling.
“Fuck off” is all you have to say other than calling “Tankie”?
Alrigut.
Double down harder - your insistence is bound to overwhelm your transparent nonsense at some point, right?
I belive in you like you believe in Russian state media.
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Well it could also be a fascist position. But of course that is implied with “tankie”.