• atro_city
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    111 year ago

    Tough decisions all around. The army needs people for defense and they seem to only be able to get men (are women being conscribed?). But men also want to live. Their deaths would be less certain on the front lines if NATO countries hadn’t dragged their feet for a decade.

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      Oh yeah, to forcefully kidnap people from the streets/homes, put them into vans and send them to die a horrible death or not, a truly tough decision we got here…
      And please don’t forget, those people for whom this is a hard decision are the good guys trying to save the world, while those who see this as totally not fucking okay are fascists, Russian bots, “want to take our freedom away and kill us”, etc.

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          Thanks for all the links.
          Being called fascist (which happens a lot on Lemmy for some reason) when speaking out against Ukrainian government which ticks almost all the boxes from the fascism definition on the wikipedia (dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy), is a brand new level of irony… :/

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          I know, right?
          That damn lemmy.ml echo chamber where people continue parroting this extremist narration that it is not okay to murder people…
          Let’s get out of here, and head to something like lemmy.world where we can celebrate hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians getting murdered, cheer for continuation of war and call everyone who disagrees with us fascists!

          • atro_city
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            81 year ago

            The dumbest take possible of what I said.

            But men also want to live.

            we can celebrate hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians getting murdered

            JFC, no wonder people block lemmy.ml users.

            That damn lemmy.ml echo chamber where people continue parroting this extremist narration that it is not okay to murder people…

            So your solution is to lets Russia invade and not resist. I’m sure nobody will be murdered or end up a gulag. No. People will just defenestrate themselves or die of natural causes with 2 shots to the back of the head. That’s what double action means, right?

            Holy moly. It’s as if you didn’t have a slice of russian disinformation, you had the whole pie.

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              So your solution is to lets Russia invade and not resist.

              My solution is to stop murdering people and let them decide for themselves.

              I’m sure nobody will be murdered or end up a gulag. No. People will just defenestrate themselves or die of natural causes with 2 shots to the back of the head. That’s what double action means, right?

              Well, if you are so sure in what you’re saying, then there’s definitely no reason to continue kidnapping people and sending them to die, they will all volunteer to fight because of the awful things that you’ve mentioned that await them if Russia wins, right?

              Holy moly. It’s as if you didn’t have a slice of russian disinformation, you had the whole pie.

              Please quote me saying one thing that is not true. Just one.

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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              So your solution is to lets Russia invade and not resist. I’m sure nobody will be murdered or end up a gulag. No. People will just defenestrate themselves or die of natural causes with 2 shots to the back of the head. That’s what double action means, right?

              Ah yes, your fascist friends are going to end up in prison.

      • atro_city
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        101 year ago

        LOL. What are you talking about? Is this an LLM? That response made no sense.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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          If you can’t understand how ghoulish it is for the western backed regime in Ukraine to force people into fighting against their will, what else is there to say to you.

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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              Majority of Ukrainians fought with the Red Army against the fascists during the Great Patriotic War. People of USSR understood that fascists represented an existential threat to them, and that’s why they fought.