President Joe Biden, speaking to the nation from the Oval Office Wednesday evening, framed his decision to step aside from the 2024 presidential race as a matter of saving democracy and passing “the torch to a new generation.”
At first, I was pissed that he didn’t bow out two months ago.
Now I have nothing but respect for the man. He realized when to step aside and let his partner take the reign, and did so with effective enough timing to throw a massive wrench into the republicans’ plans.
If Kamala wins, history will see him as the kind elder statesman who knew when to step aside for the good of the country.
John Adams is the first American president to make unpopular decision and did not let ego rule him, despite losing him the election. Americans were baying for blood to go to war against the French in 1799 but Adams refused, knowing that America will lose if he declared war. It cost him his re-election, but he did the right thing.
honest question, are you guys making any headway outside of hexbear and lemmygrad? i mean i’m sure everyone loves you in your safe space, but you have to know your “vote josevlad marxtalin 2024!!!” stance is pretty laughable out in the world
lol biden’s not running dude. but yes, i was going to vote for him.
and no, you’re not going to get me to concede that i “support genocide.” ever. we CAN condemn some of an individual’s actions while still voting for them, because that’s the best (if not ONLY) path to progress
are you this exhausting in real life? does it actually get you anywhere? because it’s not working here.
So, serious question: Do you only step up to defend other countries, or are the people in the U.S., where I assume you live, also on the agenda for the evening? Cause yeah, Genocide is pretty shit. Evil even.
What about the black communities?
Homeless?
Native American?
Disabled?
Veterans?
Children?
And the larger issue of fucking fascism that leads to precisely what you’re so stuck yelling about blindly?
Here’s what I think: Most of you are parrots. Actual sentient wagons transformed into people. Many of you don’t have many details, you kneejerk on issues that cannot be approached from any other angle than “Yeah, of course I agree” and challenge everyone who doesn’t immediately bow with “YOU SUPPORT GENOCIDE?!” as if you’re the seagulls from Finding Nemo. Now maybe I’m wrong. Maybe YOU stand more often. If so, why stand with the crowd who will move on when the next big thing happens?
Never, EVER, remove support for the greater good when the greater evil guarantees more suffering. Otherwise all you’re doing is becoming a part of the problem.
Your track record seems to have zero criticism of Republicans, when we know Trump would be far worse in supporting Israeli warcrimes. Just this once, can you come out and say that Trump would actually be worse for the one topic you ever seem to discuss?
Your track record seems to be personal attacks whenever someone asks you to provide substantial proof that can be fact checked and cross-referenced. You’ll submit articles that agree specifically with your take and call anyone who challenges it with information liars or claim they don’t know what they’re talking about. You don’t challenge people with logic, you challenge them with emotion, and chances are you’re angry because it feels as if everyone else is wrong and no one listens.
Except no, that’s not the alternative. The party gets to choose the candidate. Biden tried to stay and they told him to get out the easy or the hard way.
You must have forgotten Biden not holding a primary.
You don’t know the (binding!) DNC rules? He had the delegates committed to him and couldn’t have been forced out. And he didn’t want to quit. It was a pressure campaign to make him look out of control, and he’s always been better at negotiating behind closed doors than he is at PR so he couldn’t fight back effectively. Pretty much a chicken race to see who backs down first.
From the timing of everything going on I suspect that with the combination of the media campaign, backstabbing in the party, him being sick x2 and tired, and finally a Republican convention and VP pick being newsworthily weird (and probably also with some commitments from others to back Kamala if he stepped down) I bet he thought there wouldn’t be any better opportunity to do it.
(I was expecting the switch to end in chaos, somehow for once DNC managed to do something coordinated, DESPITE many donors also wanting to ditch Kamala)
I certainly hope Kamala will be harsher against Netanyahu and back the ICC rulings
At first, I was pissed that he didn’t bow out two months ago.
Now I have nothing but respect for the man. He realized when to step aside and let his partner take the reign, and did so with effective enough timing to throw a massive wrench into the republicans’ plans.
If Kamala wins, history will see him as the kind elder statesman who knew when to step aside for the good of the country.
John Adams is the first American president to make unpopular decision and did not let ego rule him, despite losing him the election. Americans were baying for blood to go to war against the French in 1799 but Adams refused, knowing that America will lose if he declared war. It cost him his re-election, but he did the right thing.
Edit: wrong year
Nobody tell this guy about the Whiskey Rebellion.
Biden got forced out by his donors and other Democrats (establishment ones surprisingly). He would have kept running if he could.
honest question, are you guys making any headway outside of hexbear and lemmygrad? i mean i’m sure everyone loves you in your safe space, but you have to know your “vote josevlad marxtalin 2024!!!” stance is pretty laughable out in the world
You can’t .ml Biden committing Genocide away no matter how hard you try.
K
Very stoic in your support for Genocide I see. So cool and manly.
calling me pro-genocide doesn’t make it so. no matter how hard you try.
So you don’t support Joe Biden who is complicit in Genocide?
lol biden’s not running dude. but yes, i was going to vote for him.
and no, you’re not going to get me to concede that i “support genocide.” ever. we CAN condemn some of an individual’s actions while still voting for them, because that’s the best (if not ONLY) path to progress
are you this exhausting in real life? does it actually get you anywhere? because it’s not working here.
So, serious question: Do you only step up to defend other countries, or are the people in the U.S., where I assume you live, also on the agenda for the evening? Cause yeah, Genocide is pretty shit. Evil even.
What about the black communities?
Homeless?
Native American?
Disabled?
Veterans?
Children?
And the larger issue of fucking fascism that leads to precisely what you’re so stuck yelling about blindly?
Here’s what I think: Most of you are parrots. Actual sentient wagons transformed into people. Many of you don’t have many details, you kneejerk on issues that cannot be approached from any other angle than “Yeah, of course I agree” and challenge everyone who doesn’t immediately bow with “YOU SUPPORT GENOCIDE?!” as if you’re the seagulls from Finding Nemo. Now maybe I’m wrong. Maybe YOU stand more often. If so, why stand with the crowd who will move on when the next big thing happens?
Never, EVER, remove support for the greater good when the greater evil guarantees more suffering. Otherwise all you’re doing is becoming a part of the problem.
Of course i do. Which is why I will never support someone complicit in Genocide. Unlike the people enabling Fascism.
Your track record seems to have zero criticism of Republicans, when we know Trump would be far worse in supporting Israeli warcrimes. Just this once, can you come out and say that Trump would actually be worse for the one topic you ever seem to discuss?
Your track record seems to be making shit up and hoping nobody will ever fact check it.
Your track record seems to be personal attacks whenever someone asks you to provide substantial proof that can be fact checked and cross-referenced. You’ll submit articles that agree specifically with your take and call anyone who challenges it with information liars or claim they don’t know what they’re talking about. You don’t challenge people with logic, you challenge them with emotion, and chances are you’re angry because it feels as if everyone else is wrong and no one listens.
Man, that must be stressful.
removed by mod
I want you to think loooong and hard about what you just said. Really consider it.
So what? At the end of the day he did what people wanted, it just took a demonstration of how badly we wanted it.
Why respect a Genocidal maniac for stepping down only when forced to do so?
Just be happy he’s not running anymore nobody’s buying these fairy tales about how great he is.
Because the alternative is they don’t step down.
Except no, that’s not the alternative. The party gets to choose the candidate. Biden tried to stay and they told him to get out the easy or the hard way.
You must have forgotten Biden not holding a primary.
If you think Biden could’ve been forced out if he wasn’t willing to step down then you don’t know anything about politics.
I bet you were one of those people demanding the sergeant at arms arrest people who ignored subpoenas during Trump’s first impeachment.
Do you understand how the president is picked? They need delegates to run.
Do you know how Democrat canidates are picked? Biden already had enough pledged delegates to win the nomination.
What’s “the hard way”?
They openly ditch him during the convention.
Donors already pulled out. Establishment called for him to step down voluntarily. if he doesn’t listen he doesn’t magically get to stay.
You don’t know the (binding!) DNC rules? He had the delegates committed to him and couldn’t have been forced out. And he didn’t want to quit. It was a pressure campaign to make him look out of control, and he’s always been better at negotiating behind closed doors than he is at PR so he couldn’t fight back effectively. Pretty much a chicken race to see who backs down first.
From the timing of everything going on I suspect that with the combination of the media campaign, backstabbing in the party, him being sick x2 and tired, and finally a Republican convention and VP pick being newsworthily weird (and probably also with some commitments from others to back Kamala if he stepped down) I bet he thought there wouldn’t be any better opportunity to do it.
(I was expecting the switch to end in chaos, somehow for once DNC managed to do something coordinated, DESPITE many donors also wanting to ditch Kamala)
I certainly hope Kamala will be harsher against Netanyahu and back the ICC rulings
Couldn’t agree more and his words on the matter were really touching.
I just hope the party as a whole can keep this up. I have never felt like the party cared more about being in touch with the people than it does now.
I do agree, but also in 4-8 years I’d like an actual competitive primary. Like the kind Obama won
If Trump wins, history will remember Biden as “the antichrist, bringer of despair, slow witted grim reaper, sad.”*
*This antiwoke curriculum is approved by the council of Gilead.