• @TheGrandNagus@lemmy.worldEnglish
    125•9 months ago

    If you think $700 is bad, it’s £700 in the UK… which is $913. 🤢

    Also:

    • median household income, UK (2022): £32,400 ($42,265)

    • median household income, USA (2022): $74,580

    A PS5 Pro is 26% of the typical UK household monthly income.

    A PS5 Pro is 11% of the typical US household monthly income.

    The US pricing is bad. The UK pricing is absolutely insane.

    The OLED Deck starts at £479. Still a lot but not as egregious. The LCD Deck is currently £262 ($344), which is pretty great.

    • @drathvedro@lemm.ee
      31•9 months ago

      If you think 26% is bad, in Russia it’s going to be priced at around ₽80-100k(~$883, VAT included), but the median monthly salary is ₽43.500 - $480… That’s well over 100% median household income given that over 38% families only have a single parent. And I’m pretty sure that’s not even the worst out there, think like Argentina has an extortionate import tax or something?

      • @MajorHavoc@programming.dev
        16•9 months ago

        Cool chart.

        It really makes the point to me that the PS1 and PS2, when adjusted for inflation, and for relative compute power, were just such a fantastic deal.

        I was recovering from some serious console-purchase fatigue, when I bought my PS1 to replace my garage sale purchased Super NES. It was a big deal to me.

        I’ve paid PS5 prices (inflation adjusted) for a game system a few times (my first Switch and SteamDeck), but they’ve been a lot more mind blowing than what appears to be on offer today.

        Disclaimer: My favorite game is 8-bit, anyway.

      • @TheGrandNagus@lemmy.worldEnglish
        8•9 months ago

        So the most comparable console there is $456, and this is $700.

        That is bad.

        The PS5 Pro barely costs more to produce.

        $700 is bad. $913 is awful.

        Just because the PS3 (a console universally panned as being way too expensive) was similar doesn’t mean PS5 Pro pricing is alright.

      • @notfromhere@lemmy.ml
        7•9 months ago

        Charts like that are great, I love to see them. However, they need to have a year for the inflation-adjusted dollars else it’s nearly meaningless when referred back to.

      • @kudos@lemmy.ml
        21•9 months ago

        It varies state by state, some like Oregon have 0% tax, but most will be around 13% 6-8% or so iirc.

        • @Frozengyro@lemmy.world
          6•9 months ago

          The highest state sales tax is 9.56%, most states are 6-8%. Though some major cities also have a small sales tax as well.

          • @kartoffelsaft@programming.dev
            4•9 months ago

            I live in Washington state and I’m pretty certain the sales tax here is 10% (slightly higher than your maximum figure of 9.56%). It’s a pretty well known trick here that you can account for tax just by decimal shifting and adding (ex: 5.29$ without would be 5.29$ + 0.529$ ~= 5.81$ with tax). Is that 9.56% an “in practice” figure that accounts for rounding down? I’m curious where you read it.

              • @bronzle@lemm.ee
                3•9 months ago

                That’s the average local + state sales tax in Washington. State sales tax is 6.5%, local varies from 1.2% - 3.85% (Seattle, for a total of 10.35%)

      • K3CAN
        17•9 months ago

        The US doesn’t have a national sales tax, so it depends whether the individual state imposes a tax or not.

    • @5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      4•9 months ago

      I don’t remember exactly, but some relative poverty lines start at 60% of median household income.

      • £700 / (£32,400 * .6 / 12) ≈ .43, thus 43% of monthly income for a poor household in the UK
      • $700 / ($74,580 * .6 / 12) ≈ .19, thus 19% of monthly income for a poor household in the US

      I hope median household income is netto, otherwise this is skewed.