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@return2ozma@lemmy.world to politics @lemmy.world • 8 months ago

It’s not alarmist: A second Trump term really is an extinction-level threat to democracy

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It’s not alarmist: A second Trump term really is an extinction-level threat to democracy

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It’s not alarmist: A second Trump term really is an extinction-level threat to democracy
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Why a second Trump term is a mortal threat to democracy — though perhaps not the way you think.
  • @index@sh.itjust.works
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    The same two parties have been cycling in power for a decade and you are now voting between a fascist and a genocide supporter. Democracy already doesn’t exist in USA

    • @ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      10•8 months ago

      I’ve seen this same disinformation multiple times so I keep posting the refutation. Kamala wants a ceasefire.

      https://lemmy.world/comment/13069715

      She’s taken a stance, multiple times. The left doesn’t want to hear it.

      March - https://www.npr.org/2024/03/04/1234822836/kamala-harris-benny-gantz-gaza-cease-fire-israel-hamas

      July - https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/25/harris-netanyahu-israel-cease-fire-00171315

      September - https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/harris-trump-presidential-debate-election-2024/card/harris-calls-for-ceasefire-in-gaza-while-trump-claims-she-hates-israel--isokhfqmy6EgRGrUOSuK

      Biden is complicit in genocide, but people in his administration have spoken out.

      https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/biden-administration-staff-sign-open-letter-demanding-ceasefire-israel-rcna125057

      https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/02/politics/us-government-employees-gaza-policy-statement/index.html

      Trump wants Israel to finish their genocide.

      https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/04/politics/trump-israel-comments/index.html

      https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-israel-gaza-finish-problem-rcna141905

      Democrats want a ceasefire. Republicans want genocide. Despite attempts to conflate these two positions they could not be more different.

      Do not let anyone tell you we have two fascists parties. We have a neoliberal party and a fascist party. The neoliberal party is terrible on this issue, but they do not want the genocide to continue. The Palestinians, along with everyone else, will be harmed by a second Trump term. Voting for Kamala is harm reduction. If you care about anyone please vote for Harris and Walz because doing so is useful for ending the genocide.

      • @index@sh.itjust.works
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        Democrats want a ceasefire. Republicans want genocide. Despite attempts to conflate these two positions they could not be more different. Do not let anyone tell you we have two fascists parties. We have a neoliberal party and a fascist party. The neoliberal party is terrible on this issue, but they do not want the genocide to continue. The Palestinians, along with everyone else, will be harmed by a second Trump term. Voting for Kamala is harm reduction. If you care about anyone please vote for Harris and Walz because doing so is useful for ending the genocide.

        Harris is not some random democrat party member she’s the vice president of the current Biden administration. She’s the second highest person in charge in the country, trying to pull her out from what the government is doing is a big stretch. You are claiming in the same post Biden to be complicit in a genocide and the democrats to want a ceasefire, stop being illogical.

        Both parties are fine with the genocide going on and with israel fascist government finishing the job, this is not what i’m telling you it’s what is happening live right now.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Israel_in_the_Israel–Hamas_war

        • @ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          4•8 months ago

          The vice president doesn’t have the power you argument asserts she does.

          https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/what-is-the-constitutional-role-of-the-vice-president

          stop being illogical.

          Stop ignoring evidence that refutes your argument’s central point.

    • @Greyfoxsolid@lemmy.world
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      Interesting. Which candidate is supporting genocide, and which way are they supporting it?

      • @index@sh.itjust.works
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        In fact both parties are fascists and supporting a genocide.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Israel_in_the_Israel–Hamas_war

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_surveillance_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio

        • @barsquid@lemmy.world
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          13•8 months ago

          I guess we’ll have to consider other factors, then. Like which one is promising to be a dictator, Blood Libeling Haitians, and promising to deport millions.

          • @index@sh.itjust.works
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            4•8 months ago

            Open and read links posted and consider what you want.

            • @barsquid@lemmy.world
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              13•8 months ago

              Oh, I have already considered. I want the one that is not all but promising to industrial genocide immigrants (what do you think mass deportation is?), guaranteeing women lose more rights, guaranteeing LGBT people lose more rights.

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