• John Richard
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    297 months ago

    Yeah… The military conscription service AKA fascism. How long before Israel escalates a war in the Middle East and Americans are conscripted to carry out Trump’s fascism? I’m guessing the bone spurs argument only works on wealthy people.

      • @Crankenstein@lemmy.world
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        177 months ago

        Are you aware that countries sharing borders is no excuse to force conscription against the individual’s will?

          • John Richard
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            17 months ago

            Do you even know what is happening in Gaza & Lebanon right now?

              • John Richard
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                17 months ago

                Lol are you going to act like you don’t know that Israel’s conscription is part of the reason they are committing a bunch of war crimes right now? Sharing borders is no excuse to force military service and results in fascism.

    • @Crankenstein@lemmy.world
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      227 months ago

      Can’t believe this is getting downvoted.

      No country, for any reason, should ever have the right to disenfranchise an individual and force their enlistment. Authoritarianism of this nature should never be supported.

      • Carighan Maconar
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        197 months ago

        Authoritarianism

        As someone from a country where I was the last year to do that… eh. I dunno. The military service, sure, fuck that. But the alternative if you didn’t want to do that was 1 year of working as a helper in the medical or caretaking field, and those people are missing. It’d be better if everyone just had to do a year of caregiving. It gives you a lot of perspective and is a really good experience, anyways.

        • @sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world
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          47 months ago

          I am absolutely in favor of some sort of civil service or CCC-revival in the US. I’m so fucking tired of how anti-social and disrespectful of others Americans are, and it seems like Covid has only accelerated that.

          • Carighan Maconar
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            87 months ago

            Yeah that’s the thing. It’s one thing to rail about immigrants, the elderly, the homeless, whatever. The same people who do that think quite differently after a year of civil service in a refugee shelter camp, caring in a geriatric station for people with ~no family or providing food for the homeless. It changes you. In a good way, you get to see a wholly different perspective of society, and this perspective is sorely missing with so many people. 😢

            • @sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world
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              27 months ago

              When I was in my 20s, the only people I met who were at least somewhat well-adjusted were those who had either worked through college or participated in something like the Peace Corps. Big big fan of mandatory civil service, especially as an option for those who don’t know what they want to do with their lives yet.

      • @Mannimarco@lemmy.world
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        57 months ago

        It’s probably getting downvoted because it mentions American politics, it’s not necessary to mention trump under EVERY post

    • Kairos
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      7 months ago

      And the lemmits downvote a perfectly valid standpoint.

      And drafting isn’t just racism facism, (thanks autocorrect), it’s straight up slavery.

    • @Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world
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      117 months ago

      That was literally the point of starship troopers. “Service garentees citizenship.” Forcing people into service is a form of fascism because that is the in group you desire.