• @froh42@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    No, not all Russians are evil and deserve to die. But closing your eyes and playing oblivious to what’s happening out there, just believing the state propaganda and living in a position “oh it’s just the bad leader” is not a morally OK position.

    If there is a dictator in your country you have some moral duty to find out at least a bit about the truth.

    How do I know?

    I’m German.

    My grandparent’s generation was the one that actively closed their eyes, that actively looked away, that everything that happend was someone else’s problem. They were the Generation that arranged themselves, that did good business as long as it wasn’t them that were deported, killed or fought at in the war.

    This is not a position that is morally OK, but this is what I see of a lot of Russians. Not all, but a lot.

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      7 months ago

      I like how you just conveniently ignore the part about a dictator oppression.

      The key word here is oppression.

      A country that is closing its eyes and deserves what they’re going to get is the US. In 20 or 30 years when the US is an authoritarian oppressive State then at that point the people don’t have a choice, just like they don’t in Russia today.

      Authoritarian oppressive states don’t just let the people think what they want to think. You are groomed and indoctrinated the moment you receive education until the day you die. The easiest way to control a populace is for the populace to not even know they’re being controlled.

      A key factor to that is limiting and restricting access to outside information. Which is what Russia does which is why the Tor project is so important

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        7 months ago

        So Germany didn’t have dictator oppression in the 30s and 40s? You think we didn’t have propaganda and we didn’t just kill people for another opinion? And we had access to outside information?

        I’m talking about a moral duty to oppose, to inform yourself in spite of all that. And I know it is not easy. We Germans failed that miserably.

        The plabook Putin is playing, we’ve been through it and it is was what lead to WW2.