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  • @Naich@lemmings.world
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    394 months ago

    It’s not that bad yet. FF works on pretty much any site that’s not demonstrating some sort of bleeding edge fuckery. I haven’t seen a “best viewed in Chrome” for a decade or two.

    Hopefully this sort of enshittification will drive more people to use other browsers.

    • Buelldozer
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      214 months ago

      It’s not that bad yet. FF works on pretty much any site that’s not demonstrating some sort of bleeding edge fuckery.

      Yet. I lived through the first browser war (Netscape Navigator vs Internet Explorer) and I’d estimate we’re right about the year 2000 ish. At that time both browsers were still active and reasonably well supported but it was clear that IE was going to win and somewhere in the IE6 / IE7 (2004 / 2006) time frame is when the real fuckery started. Since Edge started using Chromium in 2018(ish) we’re basically following the same schedule from two decades ago.

      Hopefully this sort of enshittification will drive more people to use other browsers.

      Sadly this is the same thing we said back then too and we (IT & the tech community) pushed hard to get people to leave IE and adopt Chrome.

      • @Link@rentadrunk.org
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        94 months ago

        Don’t forget Safari. On iOS it is the only usable browser currently with everything else just being a reskin of Safari. There are a lot of iOS users.

        That is set to change but only in the European Union.

        • @boonhet@lemm.ee
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          24 months ago

          That is set to change but only in the European Union.

          And I believe Mozilla isn’t planning on porting proper Firefox to iOS. Chromium is more likely to come over.

          If Chromium manages to take much of the market share Safari has (like if Apple decides to ever make non-safari browsers a thing outside of the EU), it’s game over for browser engine diversity. Safari is currently in second place in market share behind Chrome, followed by another Chromium browser, Edge. Firefox is so low, it’s a rounding error.

    • snooggums
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      134 months ago

      bleeding edge fuckery

      Aka shit not compliant with web standards.

    • @JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works
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      24 months ago

      I’ve had some mandatory training sites specifically disallow Firefox. But I’ve also had some that only work on Firefox, so it evens out.

      • @Brutticus@lemm.ee
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        24 months ago

        I’ve found Gmail really hates firefox, especially with VPN. I have to use one of those masking extensions. I’ve found that its basically locked me out of my student email.

          • @JcbAzPx@lemmy.world
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            24 months ago

            They might be using a third party authenticator to control access. My own job does that. Though I’ve been told we’re moving to Outlook soon.