• @Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    183 months ago

    Vote as far left as possible all the way up, if it ends up as trump v clinton then it should be the lefter of the two.

    And Democrats will always take advantage of that. They supported genocide last election. How much further to the right are they going to go? Because they will never move one Planck length to the left.

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      But if they consistently win it still alter the political landscape such that someone else will have a better chance of enacting actual change in the future.

      The two party system is garbage, but if one of the two current parties lost its ability to win entirely then a different second option could appear.

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        Right now is the perfect time for the progressive caucus -led by AOC, and hiring Katie Porter as consultant- to form a third party WHILE THEY ARE SEATED.

        And there are very simpke winning platform planks that can pull EVERYBODY in:

        • lobbyist bribery as an imprisonable offense
        • universal health care
        • cap on tuitions for medical degrees
        • abolition of private prisons and ban on privatization of government responsibilities

        Of course the psychotic Nazi cucks will not accept that last one because they dont understand that profit margins drive costs up and efficiencies down, but still…

    • @Squizzy@lemmy.world
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      23 months ago

      Push the party left and then vote for them. I would personally rathwr have useless weasels in power over soulless ghouls intent on stripping the country bare

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        Push the party left and then vote for them.

        Yeah, that was the line about Biden. He supported genocide instead of moving left.

        I would personally rathwr have useless weasels in power over soulless ghouls intent on stripping the country bare

        Or anyone interested in fixing anything.

          • @Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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            43 months ago

            Its just far worse, would I vote for my mother to die? No

            If the alternative was listening to anyone to your left, you’d kill her yourself.

            • @Squizzy@lemmy.world
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              13 months ago

              What are you on about, I am far left. The analogy was that Ibwould bote for a bad thing, american democrats, against a disgusting cruel thing, the american right.

      • @BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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        63 months ago

        Push the party left and then vote for them.

        That’s what many leftists tried to do: push Democrats at least left enough to stop actively committing genocide before they’d vote for them. The Democrats refused to budge.

        • @Squizzy@lemmy.world
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          13 months ago

          I know, Bernie should have won, AOC should be a party leader.

          But when the choice came down, fall in line against fascism. Its not hard.

            • @Squizzy@lemmy.world
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              23 months ago

              Ok so your choices are between notnopposing genocide or notnopposing genocide even more. For instance would the man commiyting the genocide send you a gold plated pager to commemorate their terrorism? Thats a good litmus test. Would your leader post AI gen pics of themselves and the genocide leader on a beach in the ethnically cleanser area?

              Thisnisnt apples to apples to Gaza/Ukraine will rap te benefits of the lazy american voter.

                • @Squizzy@lemmy.world
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                  13 months ago

                  You say this like its common, I am dfinitely not maga, you realise younhurt your own points by throwing around bs like this.

                  Things I like and want: Universal Healthcare Universal Education Unions Stronger labour laws Civil rights and equality Make public all infrastructure from telecomms to prisons.

                  Do tell me more about me though

          • @Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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            43 months ago

            Blame everyone but your shitty wing of the party that was so in love with netanyahu that they would rather support genocide and lose.

            I voted for Harris. Now lecture me like I’m a trumpist, since you have no argument for the genocide you’ve always lived for.

            • @Squizzy@lemmy.world
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              13 months ago

              They’re not my party and I am totally not in support of the genocide or ethnic cleansing. I would sooner see a demilitarised Israel returning to their originally agreed borders.

      • @ubergeek@lemmy.today
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        23 months ago

        If there are no ramifications for ignoring the vorer, what impetus is there for them to move left?

        • @Squizzy@lemmy.world
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          13 months ago

          And so whatnif those ramifications are further genocide? At leastnyou got to be right?

          Their stance on Gaza was deplorable but there has been zero benefit from their loss.