• @db2@lemmy.world
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    1303 months ago

    and a Boston man was arrested for slapping stickers of Musk making a Nazi-like salute on Tesla vehicles

    Better have him taken out back and shot, right? 🙄

      • lemonaz
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        883 months ago

        I think it was this one which also got banned from Reddit:

        • @Cocodapuf@lemmy.world
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          363 months ago

          Oh, I like that one! Direct and to the point.

          Hey, since when is it bad to want to kill Nazis? Last I heard that was generally encouraged. It’s the whole moral foundation that the first person shooter genre was based on.

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            3 months ago

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            • @nicky7@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              33 months ago

              I think for a lot of people, they’d normally be right there with you, and as you mentioned with self defense, the more people are pushed into survival-mode against someone hell-bent on destroying you, it starts to feel like destroying Nazis is the moral thing to do. Are you familiar with the Paradox of Tolerance? If you tolerate intolerance, it will take over society, so one could argue you must never tolerate intolerance. With Nazis being the real world embodiment of this paradox, extending that reasoning, the morally responsible thing to do is to destroy Nazis any time and place they spring up.

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                You say “destroy” but you mean murder. That’s not okay. I know the Paradox of Tolerance, and it doesn’t say to jump to straight-up murder. That should never be the first thought, it should be the worst case scenario.

                • @Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee
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                  83 months ago

                  No offense, but they would murder you without a second thought, without remorse, and without any shame whatsoever. They would be banking on getting a pardon for it, too. It happened to the Jan 6 traitors, it happened to the Nisour Square Massacre bastards, Ross Ulbricht got a pardon even though he literally tried to hire a hitman to kill two federal agents (those same feds were also thieves and corrupt and got busted for their crap). This shit isn’t cool, but they treat it like it is.

                  The whole cartoon hero/villain dynamic of ‘I am not like you, I will not do that’ should only happen AFTER they are thoroughly defeated and no longer capable of harming you, then you can put them up on trial and show them no mercy in the court room.

                  The situation with the Gaza genocide and the extreme corruption at higher levels completely altered my view of the death penalty. I used to be 100% against the death penalty, but now I am only against it for common criminals and common crimes. People like Ted Cruz and the BTK killer (a mass shooter and serial killer respectively) should rot in prison for the rest of their lives, but war criminals like Netenyahu and IDF foot soldiers who commit war crimes need to be executed with all haste and minimal appeals. Ditto for ‘businessmen’ like Musk and Zuckerberg who thrive on fucking people’s lives over. This goes for high level politicians like Trump and Duterte (who was recently arrested).

                  Simply put, let the punishment match the scale of the crime. Some armed robber should not receive a harsher sentence for robbing and killing a shop owner than a multinational corporate CEO whose decisions involved crashing entirely economies just so he can spite someone online.

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                  I think you missed the point. I mean Justifiable homicide. That’s exactly how grave the threat here is, and not just for minorities.

                  e: for the record, i am the most non-violent person i know. I won’t kill a fly, even flies deserve to live. I have no such feelings towards Nazis