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FenrirIII to Political Memes@lemmy.world • 4 months ago

both pretty extreme

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both pretty extreme

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FenrirIII to Political Memes@lemmy.world • 4 months ago
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  • @proletarians_must_suffer@lemmy.world
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    That would also mean that poor people choose to stay poor. They did not choose to be born into a class, but they do choose their futures.

    • @Prunebutt@slrpnk.net
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      5•4 months ago

      You’re strawmanning again.

      • @proletarians_must_suffer@lemmy.world
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        How comes?

        • @Prunebutt@slrpnk.net
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          They didn’t say anything about thee poor chosing to be poor.

          • @proletarians_must_suffer@lemmy.world
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            They literally said that while people are born into a class, they decide their future and whether to stay in that class. I literally quoted it word for word.

            • @Prunebutt@slrpnk.net
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              They were talking about the exploiter class. The thing about class war is that one class takes the freedom to chose away from the other class.

              You’re claiming that people chose to be bullied after someone says that being a bully is a choice.

              • @proletarians_must_suffer@lemmy.world
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                The thing about class war is that one class takes the freedom to chose away from the other class.

                Oh really? But that would mean that proletarian revolution is impossible since proletarians can’t choose to conduct it, bc they have no freedom to choose. I wonder what Marx thinks about that.

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                  How does that follow in any way?

                  • @proletarians_must_suffer@lemmy.world
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                    Can exploited proletarians choose to start revolution and stop being exploited, or not? If yes, they have freedom of choice and being exploited is their choice, If not, then proletarian revolution is impossible.

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