• Riskable
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    583 months ago

    Element needs to be better. Discord is awesome with the way it auto-plays looping videos/gifs and has animated emojis.

    Seriously: That’s all they’d need to do. The element devs need to focus on fun.

    • troed
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      133 months ago

      Isn’t that a client side issue though? Element is just one Matrix client. I haven’t used it myself but heard from others that Fluffychat (another Matrix client) is more like Discord.

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        143 months ago

        Yeah it’s probably just a client side issue but the OP mentioned Element, specifically 🤷

        I just wanted to point out that Element is no fun! No fun at all!

        It works and it works great for what it does. Even voice and streaming are great with Element. It’s just got a terrible, no-fun interface and pointless limitations on things like looping videos. You can’t even configure it to make them play properly (as in, automatic and endlessly, the way they were meant to be played! 😤).

        Looping videos and animated emojis are super fun ways to chat with people. Even in professional settings! It really breaks up the humdrum and can motivate people to chat and share more.

        Element is all serious all the time and going into a chat channel there feels like a chore.

        • @lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org
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          53 months ago

          If I’m talking with people about the topical thing which is why I joined a room in the first place, the last thing I want is a looping autoloops fruityloops annoyance. Plus, not autoplaying and autolooping them saves battery.

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            153 months ago

            I hate to break this to you but that means you’re not normal. If all you ever do in chat is talk about serious things that are of such earth-shattering importance that it would be incredibly rude and obnoxious for someone to post a silent looping video you’re not normal, and no fun at all.

            The way Element currently works, it’s made for people like you… A strange minority that probably only thinks about “chat” in terms of communicating for an end goal and not for the pleasure of conversation.

            • @IdleSheep@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              Plus all this stuff can be disabled in discord too, if you want to be that serious. There are per-role and per-channel settings that let you disable images, link embedding, external emojis, etc.

              It gives you choice. I have no choice in Element, it’s always unfun all the time.

            • @lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org
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              23 months ago

              Oh, do cry me a river while you’re at it. Pretty much every community everywhere has a general or memes room, those are for the meme gifs (or wait, these are webp these days…).

      • @fahfahfahfah@lemmy.billiam.net
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        83 months ago

        It is, but Element is still the “Gold standard” Matrix client and the most popular. And if you’re going to create a brand new chat protocol, you should make sure that your flagship client measures up to the competition.

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      Fun is the least of my concerns. I don’t know why people compare the 2 when they have almost nothing in common. One is a chat app and the other is a voice/streaming/community app. Matrix is slow as hell and the way “spaces” are implemented is a joke.

      Honestly outside of the incessant pop-ups and upsells and the whole selling everything to AI companies, it’s pretty great for private communities.

      • troed
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        53 months ago

        Your view of Matrix seems a bit weird. AFAIK I can do all the voice/streaming/community in Matrix as well as it’s done in Discord.

        Also, no, my server isn’t slow. matrix.org might be, I don’t know.

        • Ulrich
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          23 months ago

          I have a Matrix server. I’ve also used a half a dozen others. Every one of them you have sit there and stare at it for 5-10 secs and watch the messages roll in every time you open the app.

            • Ulrich
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              33 months ago

              Loading times are a skill issue? You could at least try to make sense while you’re being a dick.

              • @tfm@europe.pubOP
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                33 months ago

                I’ve never had any problems with low speed. Maybe it’s hosting provider?

          • troed
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            33 months ago

            I can’t speak to your server but I don’t have that issue. It was solved with Sliding Sync quite some time ago.

              • troed
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                23 months ago

                I’m guessing your issue is in your installation.

                • Ulrich
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                  23 months ago

                  You missed the part where I said I’ve also tried a half a dozen different servers. And if they all also screwed up then that is just a different type of problem that still exists.

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                    Might be that I simply don’t believe you as well. I also know a few people running Matrix servers besides myself (Synapse as well as Conduit) and ever since Sliding Sync and clients that support it (Element X, not Element etc) this issue simply doesn’t exist.

    • @joshchandra@midwest.social
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      23 months ago

      Also, people forget that Discord’s streaming capability is, unfortunately, absolutely top-notch; no other community-screensharing platform has fewer issues, and my friends and I like to watch each other play games often.