I disagree. Democrats had the presidency, the house and the senate (filibuster proof). They chose a republican friendly solution that was just a bandaid on a broken system.
All it did was piss off republicans and give them a rallying point while doing nothing to encourage democrats to vote.
They should have had the balls to create a system that actually fixed the problems, but they didn’t.
There were like one or two very conservative Dems who derailed the single payer option when they had the filibuster proof majority. The main problem is not getting a solid party wide understanding of the goals they are aiming for ahead of the chances to do something about it.
Yeah the Republicans are basically one mind. I think I remember hearing about Karl Rove back in the day going around to Republicans that didn’t follow that they would take them out if they didn’t toe the party line. I think it’s only gotten worse since then with only the sycophants left.
Dems are different. Like there’s no reason Bernie and AOC would be in the same party of Pelosi and Schumer but they are. This leads to compromises being necessary on the democratic party. Also, the voters for the Dems are just as diverse as no one ever seems happy with them either.
Actually no, It was an independent who killed the Public Option vote. There was one Dem who opposed the rules in the original bill around Abortion but he still voted yay in the end and Joe Lieberman was the Nay vote. Because they only reached 59 it was filibustered, so they clearly were not filibuster-proof.
The last time DNC had an actual 60 without caucus was 1979.
They only had a filibuster-proof senate counting the independent Joe Lieberman who caucused with democrats. Lieberman (and a few other dems tbh) wouldn’t support a single payer system, so the ACA was the best they could do.
I disagree. Democrats had the presidency, the house and the senate (filibuster proof). They chose a republican friendly solution that was just a bandaid on a broken system.
All it did was piss off republicans and give them a rallying point while doing nothing to encourage democrats to vote.
They should have had the balls to create a system that actually fixed the problems, but they didn’t.
There were like one or two very conservative Dems who derailed the single payer option when they had the filibuster proof majority. The main problem is not getting a solid party wide understanding of the goals they are aiming for ahead of the chances to do something about it.
Meanwhile Republicans can dissolve the Department of Education with a bare majority in both houses…
Yeah the Republicans are basically one mind. I think I remember hearing about Karl Rove back in the day going around to Republicans that didn’t follow that they would take them out if they didn’t toe the party line. I think it’s only gotten worse since then with only the sycophants left.
Dems are different. Like there’s no reason Bernie and AOC would be in the same party of Pelosi and Schumer but they are. This leads to compromises being necessary on the democratic party. Also, the voters for the Dems are just as diverse as no one ever seems happy with them either.
Maybe Dems should clean house
If you mean the progressive arm of the democratic party, then yes :)
I wanted to say the old people need to go but Bernie is old and I don’t want him going anywhere.
Joe Lieberman said no to single payer… He is the one who blocked it from happening because his state had some insurance companies.
But bootlickers running around frothing their their mouth how this is the best republicans would permit us to have 🤡
He was also an Independent and not a Democrat.
Thats what I said. The ACA was in 2010.
And i provided the facts so people can make their own judgement.
Actually no, It was an independent who killed the Public Option vote. There was one Dem who opposed the rules in the original bill around Abortion but he still voted yay in the end and Joe Lieberman was the Nay vote. Because they only reached 59 it was filibustered, so they clearly were not filibuster-proof.
The last time DNC had an actual 60 without caucus was 1979.
They only had a filibuster-proof senate counting the independent Joe Lieberman who caucused with democrats. Lieberman (and a few other dems tbh) wouldn’t support a single payer system, so the ACA was the best they could do.
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