You must hate all countries then because they all use aspects of capitalism to further their gains. I agree though the goal is to ween off of capitalism into proletariat owned socialism. Unfortunately for tankies I won’t be used as a tool for their wanton violence against those that disagree. My demsoc flavor emphasizes humanism over hatred.
Aspects of capitalism: private businesses, private homeownership, private agriculture, classism, investments into foreign countries, foreign investment into said country, etc
As long as you’re not a tankie or authoritarian I don’t really have a problem with many of the particulars. Just know lots of MLs are tankies.
I genuinely don’t get why y’all use this as an insult. Liberal has been bastardized from its original roots of pretty much modern day libertarianism, which is a deeply unserious party. Not even corrupt neolibs compare to that.
Here’s where you might get me, I don’t see us transitioning into a socialist system without excessive violence, unless we use capitalism to get us there. I don’t want violence that’s undue, I don’t want the death of innocents, and I don’t want authoritarianism from a single fallible person. Corruption is always the ruining factor of any ideology.
I fail to see how those views qualify me as a liberal, not even a neolib.
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I agree, I’m not a neo-lib, I’m a demsoc.
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No dawg, you’re thinking of socdems. Which are still better than tankies.
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You must hate all countries then because they all use aspects of capitalism to further their gains. I agree though the goal is to ween off of capitalism into proletariat owned socialism. Unfortunately for tankies I won’t be used as a tool for their wanton violence against those that disagree. My demsoc flavor emphasizes humanism over hatred.
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Aspects of capitalism: private businesses, private homeownership, private agriculture, classism, investments into foreign countries, foreign investment into said country, etc
As long as you’re not a tankie or authoritarian I don’t really have a problem with many of the particulars. Just know lots of MLs are tankies.
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I genuinely don’t get why y’all use this as an insult. Liberal has been bastardized from its original roots of pretty much modern day libertarianism, which is a deeply unserious party. Not even corrupt neolibs compare to that.
Here’s where you might get me, I don’t see us transitioning into a socialist system without excessive violence, unless we use capitalism to get us there. I don’t want violence that’s undue, I don’t want the death of innocents, and I don’t want authoritarianism from a single fallible person. Corruption is always the ruining factor of any ideology.
I fail to see how those views qualify me as a liberal, not even a neolib.