the left is literally about creating a stateless society. The term ‘left-wing’ comes from the French Revolution in which members of parliament who were against restoring the monarchy sat on the left side.
maybe have a look into left politics and theory before establishing that an entire philosophical set of ideas is ‘authoritarian’.
i would love to know the sources of media you choose to consume, i would also love to know who you think ‘represents’ the left.
even those who i think represent the left would be considered ‘not left enough’ or some other bullshit considering its an inherently, extremely disparate grouping of thousands of ideologies.
Almost the entirety of Lemmy is left leaning, even more so than reddit was. So unless you’re over in specifically ML communities you’re generally interacting with non-authoritarian leftists.
We’ve even got multiple entire instances with a strong non-auth leaning. (db0, vtc, etc)
I think perhaps you’re reading too much into what others say. There are a lot of exaggerated views all over the internet, and that means here as well. And although I’d like to believe most of us here do our best to speak in good faith, I’m sure that’s not always true.
And yet, I’m also sure that there are some people here who do genuinely believe that Westerners can’t be leftists, but I think those views are clouded by the history of Western hegemony and imperialism, and ultimately don’t stand up to scrutiny. I think it’s our responsibility to, maybe not be accepting of such views, but at least to be understanding of them with intent to put them behind us.
i dont even know what this means, are you saying tankies made you more right wing?
you probably just needed an excuse my dude
I’m against authoritarianism so… if lefties are authoritarians I’m not left.
the left is literally about creating a stateless society. The term ‘left-wing’ comes from the French Revolution in which members of parliament who were against restoring the monarchy sat on the left side.
maybe have a look into left politics and theory before establishing that an entire philosophical set of ideas is ‘authoritarian’.
Not when the left wing is only represented by authoritarians.
i would love to know the sources of media you choose to consume, i would also love to know who you think ‘represents’ the left.
even those who i think represent the left would be considered ‘not left enough’ or some other bullshit considering its an inherently, extremely disparate grouping of thousands of ideologies.
I consume this platform’s media and the tankies are a poison to the left
Tankies are not leftist. Neither are libs. Both are basically fash.
Liberals are for globalisation. Tankies are for China’s firewall and surveillance.
Social democrats are for low inequality
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i dont know what this means, thanks for playing i guess
Here on lemmy there are left communities and they are completely clear in their messaging that if you don’t accept their narrative you’re a liberal.
Right wing is the authoritarians.
How have you mixed these up ?
The right wing want to force Christianity in school. To make everyone their religion. They remove diversity policies
They are the ones keeping people from identifying with their gender on identification documents. Or using the appropriate bathroom.
They don’t want women to have autonomy over their own body.
They literally are trying to force people to be a specific way and remove their rights to autonomy.
That’s authoritarian.
You know about the paradox of tolerance, right?
Tolerating right wing ideology only allows it to become dominant.
We can’t tolerate intolerance and misinformation.
It was that tolerance that got us into this shit show we are in today. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
Do you mean leftist or tankie? Because tankies are right-wing like liberals.
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That’s orthogonal to left / right.
Not if lefty communities are only represented by the authoritarian wing.
Almost the entirety of Lemmy is left leaning, even more so than reddit was. So unless you’re over in specifically ML communities you’re generally interacting with non-authoritarian leftists.
We’ve even got multiple entire instances with a strong non-auth leaning. (db0, vtc, etc)
I think you mean, “liberals”.
I’m sorry, I’m not sure I follow…
I don’t pass the lefty purity test because I participate in American democracy. That means I can only be liberal and never a leftist.
I think perhaps you’re reading too much into what others say. There are a lot of exaggerated views all over the internet, and that means here as well. And although I’d like to believe most of us here do our best to speak in good faith, I’m sure that’s not always true.
And yet, I’m also sure that there are some people here who do genuinely believe that Westerners can’t be leftists, but I think those views are clouded by the history of Western hegemony and imperialism, and ultimately don’t stand up to scrutiny. I think it’s our responsibility to, maybe not be accepting of such views, but at least to be understanding of them with intent to put them behind us.
If you want to increase your leftist purity, then stop supporting a genocidal empire. It’s not that complicated.
Tankies/redfash are not lefties. Neither are libs.
Tankies cause people to vote right wing. Polarisation.