• Sunshine (she/her)
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    2521 days ago

    Makes me feel a lot bettter about losing high quality men such as Jagmeet Singh and Jonathan Pedneault!

    • Sixty
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      1621 days ago

      Can’t agree! Muclair and Singh moved so far to center they destroyed the party. Not just my words, the party removed all reference to socialism from the party constitution.

    • Funderpants
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      1521 days ago

      Oh no, did Jagmeet lose his seat too? I’m a liberal but Jagmeet is a good guy, didn’t deserve that.

      • @Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
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        2921 days ago

        He did, and he’s stepping down as party leader. Personally, I think it’s a good thing. His leadership has been far too soft and cuddly. The NDP need a leader who will channel the anger a lot of Canadians are feeling at watching their quality of life get sold off to oligarchs.

        • Hemingways_Shotgun
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          1621 days ago

          I’m just spit-balling here, but is it totally off the table to dig up Jack Layton and elect him in some kind of “Weekend at Bernie’s” type shenanigan?

        • StinkyFingerItchyBum
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          21 days ago

          I really like Singh. He is a GOOD man. A GOOD leader. I want to be at a party with him in the room. But I agree, he wasn’t the factor in his fate. The centre left sacrificed the NDP for the libs because of the US. Strategic voting worked. If they hadn’t this would have been a conservative win. It’s acceptable because the alternative is disastrous.

          Singh’s cuddlyness was probably trying to follow Le Bon Jacque’s lead. Fluffy warm and cuddly via Layton got the NDP some big successes and bigger hopes until tragedy struck.

          I’m more worried about the next election. A minority in a time of great struggle won’t go full term. I give this around 3 years. The libs can’t win the next, no one goes 5 terms in a row.

          Lets assume the Cons take the next, and the NDP get a bounceback from extreme liberal fatigue. Does the NDP need Hope or Anger? I’m not sure, but we saw a lot of rural areas be two way con/ndp. These areas would probably respond to channeled anger. Flip a few blue to Orange.

          • @Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
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            821 days ago

            I don’t think hope and anger are a binary choice. As the saying goes, you have to hate something to change it.

            I want an NDP that brings hope to people who are angry, by sharing in their anger and pain, and offering a way forward. Those things can build on each other.

        • Funderpants
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          321 days ago

          Best for him to step down. Let’s not confuse my subjective fondness for the guy with his objective failure as NDP leader.

        • Sixty
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          121 days ago

          It’s kinda funny that I think if the eras of Muclair and Singh were swapped around they’d be doing much better.

      • @small44@sopuli.xyz
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        221 days ago

        I have zero issue with Jagmeet leadership but he failed to reverse the decline in the power and number of seats NPD had