Former President Joe Biden's speech is marked with long pauses and a halting delivery in a recording of his interview about classified documents released Friday.
What part? Pointing out that the Democrats clear failures led to Trump being elected?
It seems like people who point out why Trump got elected should be taken seriously instead of being dismissed. Maybe learning and avoiding the obvious mistakes of the past is a good idea.
It’s the part where no one was actually pointing out that the Republicans were the same or worse. I’m not defending the Democrats. I’m just calling you all out for helping Republicans.
Me and a lot of others were pointing out that the Republicans were worse, and that’s why we wanted Democrats to pick a candidate that the voters actually wanted. Your revisionist history is a bad faith attempt to shift blame from those that refuse to learn why they keep losing elections to a fascist party.
I was one of those people by the way. So why are you even arguing with me? And it’s not revisionist history. It’s open history for all to see. The coverage was massively one-sided. So much so that many Palestinians legitimately thought Trump would be better. The only one practicing revisionist history here is you If you deny that. Or the fact that everyone constantly and only was criticizing Biden, if that wasn’t you then why you defending the ones that did? Because the receipts are all over lemmy and the mass media
I’m arguing with you because you are lying. Plenty of people said that the Republicans are worse. I don’t think the coverage was one sided, it’s just that the Democrats couldn’t see how bad their candidate was. Yes, some voters are dumb, and thought Trump would be better, that’s how voters are. Maybe if we could have pointed to a party that was actually trying to fix things, we could have had better ammo to sway them.
I saw plenty of people criticizing Trump AND Biden. Saying that everyone constantly and only criticized Biden is openly false.
Then point out a single lie. Yes plenty of people said it in isolation. It wasn’t enough. Has the same goes the road to hell is paved with good intentions. And we are here.
If you don’t think the coverage was one-sided that’s literally on you. Pick any day span from the last election cycle and count the average of anti-biden post and compare that to the average of any post criticizing trump or republicans. Even here in leftyville it was wildly skewed. And then understand that the mass media was far far worse
…no one was actually pointing out that the Republicans were the same or worse.
Or the fact that everyone constantly and only was criticizing Biden…
Those are both completely untrue. I saw the election coverage. I saw a bunch of shit being thrown at Biden/Harris and Trump. The idea that it was one-sided is just ignoring how bad the Democratic candidates were.
Neither are a lie. You are just misrepresenting them and being disingenuous. When taken in the context and the understanding of course they were intended. They’re unfalsifiable. This was never about the you that is personal to just you. It’s about the you that is the group of you. Breathlessly reposting the same stories day on day. That largely only called out Biden Etc. Dance around it all you want. We see you for what you are. I pushed back against the one-sided narrative every day. And I received so much hate for it. But in the end I was right. I would give anything to have been wrong. But I was right
You’re not to my left. Not by a long shot. Your just ignorant or disingenuous.
Though please do tell. What part of pointing out that the genocide in Palestine wasn’t on the ballot. And that regardless of who we wanted or what we wanted. It was either going to be a democrat or a republican that would win. And we would definitely just like one of them winning more. What part of that makes me economically right wing?
Though please do tell. What part of pointing out that the genocide in Palestine wasn’t on the ballot. And that regardless of who we wanted or what we wanted. It was either going to be a democrat or a republican that would win. And we would definitely just like one of them winning more.
I don’t really believe that centrists have a preference as long as they got their genocide. As far as I’m concerned, this is just gloating that you have two parties representing the interests of the genocidal.
What part of that makes me economically right wing?
It’s neat how you have to add “economically” because you know that it doesn’t get much further to the right than genocide support.
Be consistent in something other than your hypocrisy. How is someone a Centrist or right wing economically simply by acknowledging the outcomes of right wing systems?
I’m concerned that people who claim to be leftists, through their ignorance and hubris. Prioritized criticizing the best of the two shitty options available to us, amplifying fascist propaganda. That you along with the fascist media and Democrats, actually convinced many, including Palestinians even. To vote for the fascist thinking he was better or just stay home thinking it couldn’t get worse.
Fixing Gaza wasn’t on the ballot. Making it worse was. As was making Ukraine worse. As was destroying civil rights at home. All things you helped achieve through your ignorance and gullibility. The reason we can’t have nice things or left leaning governments. It’s because we have to expend so much effort try to stop you all from hurting everyone that there’s none left over to actually make progress. Or move anyone leftward.
Even now you’re still here trying to cope with your bad decisions. Beating a dead horse. As an actual fascist makes literally everything worse. And Biden was a f****** disappointment and an ignorant liberal. As was Harris. The fact that you think you’re any better is laughable though.
Liberals played their part, that’s true. The problem is people like yourself don’t acknowledge your part in it.
What part? Pointing out that the Democrats clear failures led to Trump being elected?
It seems like people who point out why Trump got elected should be taken seriously instead of being dismissed. Maybe learning and avoiding the obvious mistakes of the past is a good idea.
It’s the part where no one was actually pointing out that the Republicans were the same or worse. I’m not defending the Democrats. I’m just calling you all out for helping Republicans.
Me and a lot of others were pointing out that the Republicans were worse, and that’s why we wanted Democrats to pick a candidate that the voters actually wanted. Your revisionist history is a bad faith attempt to shift blame from those that refuse to learn why they keep losing elections to a fascist party.
I was one of those people by the way. So why are you even arguing with me? And it’s not revisionist history. It’s open history for all to see. The coverage was massively one-sided. So much so that many Palestinians legitimately thought Trump would be better. The only one practicing revisionist history here is you If you deny that. Or the fact that everyone constantly and only was criticizing Biden, if that wasn’t you then why you defending the ones that did? Because the receipts are all over lemmy and the mass media
I’m arguing with you because you are lying. Plenty of people said that the Republicans are worse. I don’t think the coverage was one sided, it’s just that the Democrats couldn’t see how bad their candidate was. Yes, some voters are dumb, and thought Trump would be better, that’s how voters are. Maybe if we could have pointed to a party that was actually trying to fix things, we could have had better ammo to sway them.
I saw plenty of people criticizing Trump AND Biden. Saying that everyone constantly and only criticized Biden is openly false.
Then point out a single lie. Yes plenty of people said it in isolation. It wasn’t enough. Has the same goes the road to hell is paved with good intentions. And we are here.
If you don’t think the coverage was one-sided that’s literally on you. Pick any day span from the last election cycle and count the average of anti-biden post and compare that to the average of any post criticizing trump or republicans. Even here in leftyville it was wildly skewed. And then understand that the mass media was far far worse
Those are both completely untrue. I saw the election coverage. I saw a bunch of shit being thrown at Biden/Harris and Trump. The idea that it was one-sided is just ignoring how bad the Democratic candidates were.
Neither are a lie. You are just misrepresenting them and being disingenuous. When taken in the context and the understanding of course they were intended. They’re unfalsifiable. This was never about the you that is personal to just you. It’s about the you that is the group of you. Breathlessly reposting the same stories day on day. That largely only called out Biden Etc. Dance around it all you want. We see you for what you are. I pushed back against the one-sided narrative every day. And I received so much hate for it. But in the end I was right. I would give anything to have been wrong. But I was right
You will not be content until everyone to your left and only your left is silent so your parties can move right like you want.
You’re not to my left. Not by a long shot. Your just ignorant or disingenuous.
Though please do tell. What part of pointing out that the genocide in Palestine wasn’t on the ballot. And that regardless of who we wanted or what we wanted. It was either going to be a democrat or a republican that would win. And we would definitely just like one of them winning more. What part of that makes me economically right wing?
Sounds right wing to me
I don’t really believe that centrists have a preference as long as they got their genocide. As far as I’m concerned, this is just gloating that you have two parties representing the interests of the genocidal.
It’s neat how you have to add “economically” because you know that it doesn’t get much further to the right than genocide support.
Be consistent in something other than your hypocrisy. How is someone a Centrist or right wing economically simply by acknowledging the outcomes of right wing systems?
How is genocide support anything but right wing?
How is acknowledging reality, acknowledging the only possible outcomes of a right wing system, supporting anything? Can you be any more cringe?
Just saying, it sure seems like you’re angrier at anyone upset at genocide than you are at the perpetrators and their enablers.
I’m concerned that people who claim to be leftists, through their ignorance and hubris. Prioritized criticizing the best of the two shitty options available to us, amplifying fascist propaganda. That you along with the fascist media and Democrats, actually convinced many, including Palestinians even. To vote for the fascist thinking he was better or just stay home thinking it couldn’t get worse.
Fixing Gaza wasn’t on the ballot. Making it worse was. As was making Ukraine worse. As was destroying civil rights at home. All things you helped achieve through your ignorance and gullibility. The reason we can’t have nice things or left leaning governments. It’s because we have to expend so much effort try to stop you all from hurting everyone that there’s none left over to actually make progress. Or move anyone leftward.
Even now you’re still here trying to cope with your bad decisions. Beating a dead horse. As an actual fascist makes literally everything worse. And Biden was a f****** disappointment and an ignorant liberal. As was Harris. The fact that you think you’re any better is laughable though.
Aaron Bushnell cast the only vote that matters.