We tried to warn you

  • @EmpireInDecay@lemmy.mlOP
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    420 hours ago

    I can whine all day long, our current POS in the WH is there because liberals refused to see what was staring them in the face. Accusing everyone of pointing it out as bots, or Russians, or trying to get trump elected, or any myriad of bullshit that happened to be the trend at the time. There is literally a rule here about bot accusations because of liberals.

    Those that don’t remember the past, or acknowledge it, will repeat it, again and again

    • @T00l_shed@lemmy.world
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      110 hours ago

      Nah, the reason trump got elected is multi- faceted, but Americans wanted him over a woman. You can 100% acknowledge it, but the we tried to warn you is the irrelevant part lol.

      • @Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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        28 hours ago

        Nah, the reason trump got elected is multi- faceted, but Americans wanted him over a woman.

        trump was elected because people who would vote for an opposition party didn’t see one and stayed home.

        • @T00l_shed@lemmy.world
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          18 hours ago

          And were content with the possibility of trump being elected, yes. The effectively two party system in the us meant it was with kamala or trump.

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            8 hours ago

            Yes, that’s the reason I voted for harris. The party seriously overestimated how many people would do likewise. Or the party preferred trump to mounting an actual opposition.

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                Yes, he represented hateful people. harris needed to appeal to people who might have voted for her. Instead, she tried and predictably failed to appeal to nonexistent moderate republicans who would never vote for her.

                When centrists pander to republicans, republicans don’t buy it. But the left correctly sees it as a betrayal.

      • piefood
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        310 hours ago

        Well, I think being a terrible candidate that ran on unpopular platforms and alienated voters, all while trying to be as similar to a highly unpopular president might have also had something to do with it. I don’t think being a woman was that big of a factor. The fact that we tried to warn you is highly relevant. Learning from your mistakes is how you stop making them, but the Democratic leadership keeps refusing to do that.

        • @T00l_shed@lemmy.world
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          19 hours ago

          What unpopular platforms did he run on? Pausing federal student loan repayments? Boosting the irs’s funding to help catch tax evaders? Reduce Healthcare costs? Help funding for service members who suffered from exposure up toxic burn pits? Halting federal executions? Investing in climate change initiatives?

          We tried to warn you would be relevant if he was elected, which he clearly wasn’t so no it isn’t relevant. Look the dnc is a fucking joke but this fake outrage is silly

          • piefood
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            29 hours ago

            Well, I was talking about Harris, not Biden, but if you really want to know: Backing Genocide. Bad economic policy. Increased military spending. Half-assed fixes for healthcare costs. Half-assed fixes for policing. Half-assed fixes for climate-change. Just look at the polling at the time. It was clear that Americans didn’t like him or his policies.

            It is relevant, because the DNC telling everyone that their clearly cognitively impared candidate wasn’t cognitively impared. That disenfranchised a lot of voters who gave up on the Democratic party after that. Harris had to spend her campaign with Biden and his legacy dragging her down.

            You may think that the outrage at a clearly corrupt organization that handed the election over to fascists is silly, but a lot of people find that pretty important.

            • @T00l_shed@lemmy.world
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              19 hours ago

              Backing Genocide. Bad economic policy. Increased military spending. Half-assed fixes for healthcare costs. Half-assed fixes for policing. Half-assed fixes for climate-change. Just look at the polling at the time. It was clear that Americans didn’t like him or his policies.

              Yet it got trump elected, so maybe these policies are more widely accepted than you want to believe

              You may think that the outrage at a clearly corrupt organization that handed the election over to fascists is silly, but a lot of people find that pretty important

              Right cause that’s what I said? Keep making up strawman.

      • @EmpireInDecay@lemmy.mlOP
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        29 hours ago

        Gender had nothing to do with why she lost, she was a shit candidate that bowed to keep all the issues that people had with Biden in place while cozing up to people barely left of trump.

        • @Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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          28 hours ago

          centrists keep banging the “women can’t win” drum because they don’t have a woman on their bench who is as popular as AOC. They’re holding back all women to stop one progressive woman.

        • @T00l_shed@lemmy.world
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          19 hours ago

          I think gender had a lot to do with things. She was a mediocre candidate, leagues better than trump, yet Americans were content with the possibility of trump being elected.

          • @EmpireInDecay@lemmy.mlOP
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            18 hours ago

            She tried running on a Republican platform courting Republicans

            The people don’t want a phony Democrat. If it’s a choice between a genuine Republican, and a Republican in Democratic clothing, the people will choose the genuine article, every time; that is, they will take a Republican before they will a phony Democrat.

            Harry Truman 1952

            • @T00l_shed@lemmy.world
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              18 hours ago

              She tried running on a democrat platform, which is republican lite. There are at least some semblance of policies to help people with the democratic platform.