“Yes don’t vote at all to get rid of fascism”

  • @uid0gid0@lemmy.world
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    14 days ago

    The best a third party can hope for us to split the vote from whatever majority party they are most like and allow the other side to win. And only one time in our history has a third party gotten more votes than the party it split from. Teddy Roosevelt, Bull Moose Party, 1912

    • @DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world
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      4 days ago

      The best a third party can hope for us to split the vote from whatever majority party they are most like and allow the other side to win.

      Progressive Democrats in non-swing states can vote 3rd party and scare future delegates and contenders into being more progressive. Also, they could support Libertarians and Constitutionalists a little in non-swing states.

      source for pic: wc:File:Progressive Moose walking.png

      wp:Bull Moose Party

      The Progressive Party, popularly nicknamed the Bull Moose Party, was a third party in the United States formed in 1912 by former president Theodore Roosevelt after he lost the presidential nomination of the Republican Party to his former protégé turned rival, incumbent president William Howard Taft. The new party was known for taking advanced positions on progressive reforms and attracting leading national reformers. The party was also ideologically deeply connected with America’s radical-liberal tradition.[2]

      wp:1912 United States presidential election

      In 1848, it was just the Democrats and the Whigs.

      Then in 1856, the Republicans ran their first candidate for President: John C. Frémont;

      and in 1860, it was Lincoln.

      (minor correction about 3 hours after replying: “and in 1856, it was Lincoln.” to “and in 1860, it was Lincoln.”)

      • @DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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        13 days ago

        Lol. Why would I support Libertarians? They’re dumber than Trump supporters and have about as many solutions when you inquire.

        See, you actually think that there’s a good 3rd party worth voting for.

        There’s not.

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          3 days ago

          Trump got 312 Electoral College votes, while Harris got 226.

          If Trump lost 44 of those votes to Harris, she would be President today.

          If you got 120 000 Georgians, 60 000 Nevadans, 121 000 Pennsyvanians, 90 000 Michiganders and 30 000 Wisconsinites who voted for Trump last year to instead vote for wp:Chase Oliver, Trump would have lost 46 Electoral College votes to Harris.